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More Torch Relay Embarrassment: North Koreans' turn

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Apr 27, 2008.

  1. SamFisher

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    Why is it hedged? I stated that I don't want it to continue, period. THere's no hedge there.

    HOWEVER I suspect it won't be, so in that event I hope at least it is not given the ridiculous amount of attention and resources that this one has been. THE TORCH HAS ITS OWN AIRBUS. PEOPLE ARE RISKING THEIR LIVES TO TAKE IT TO THE TOP OF CHOMOLONGMA. That's completely asinine.
     
  2. YallMean

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    Again, dont generalize Chinese people. If it was something that represnts good will, I am sure a lot of Chinese will agree with me that China should embrace it regardless of its origin.
     
  3. YallMean

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    I can tell you that, and other Chinese posters can attest to it, the torch relay in China has never been precevied as a vehicle to showcase China. It's always about China being a part of the World family and a sense of pround that the holy flame that represents peace pass through whole China, reaching as far as Hymalaya.
     
  4. SamFisher

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    The "holy flame" of unholy origins is just burning kerosene that is lit with a cigarrette lighter, and thus far it has been anything but peaceful. China is a part of the world family regardless of how many victory laps the silly torch is taken on.
     
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    LOL, read your own post, you don't see hedging here? Anyway, I'll continue to wait you sail on torch and "give it ridiculous amount of attention" in protesting like you do now in 4 years.

    As to the waste of money part, you actually may have a point, IF YOU ARE A CHINESE. It's their money, it's for them to decide if it's worth it.

    Valentines day was first celebrated without any romantic notion. Look how it's celebrated now? You can also go around tell non religious people stop celebrating Christmas also(especially Chinese :D) in paranoid , since it was a holiday with religious notion.

    Or, you can sit back and relax.
     
  6. YallMean

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    First off I doubt the torch was lit by a made in china cigarrette lighter and burning on kerosene.

    And it is your commentary based on your perception and experience.

    Last, your last line sounds eerily similar to the line of Mao's philosophy. So who knows maybe you guys are from the same breed.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    I don't think the chinese bankrolled the extra security that the city of SF, Buenos Aires, etc. had to pay to avert torch rioting. Though I may be wrong.

    There's an infamous story about the torch going out and being re-lit by cigarette lighter on many a relay. I think it goes out all the time.
     
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    "Excuse me, but when did this thread become about everything not North Korea?"
     
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    How funny.

    I don't remember anybody mentions anything of Nazi when aussies ran the torch relay.

    You selective use of analogy is a perfect manifest of double standard and hypocrisy: do what I say, not what I do.
     
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    Agree. actually i was pretty pro-west before this event, almost to the point of blindly. now, i am not that deluded as before. i think as much as west is trying to paint how shameful/disastrous this event is to China, for a great portion of chinese people, it just make them more realistic and more alert when comes to absorb further west cultures and ideologies.
     
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    I can attest to it. China just want to show frendliness and really happy about the chance to be culturally intergrated into the remaining world at least for once ( not just west). Besides, Chinese people love sports. You can see how popular NBA is in China now.

    Another thing I want to bring about is that the game WAS awarded SEVEN YEARS AGO.

    DO you honestly think that the chinese government had the forsight at that time that China would enjoy 5 consecutive years of double-digital economical growth and the recent credit debacle mainly hitting the USA and spreading to the Europe while in contrast China has a huge pool of currecy account , which all make China look much stronger than it was seven years ago??

    Obviosuly, showcasing was never China's intention, since seven years ago, China had little to showcase around the world.
     
  12. wnes

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    Umm, how are Dalai Lama's well-documented Nazi ties a specious subject?
     
  13. wnes

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    Sammy Fish's sudden awakening to Nazi torch relay invention is hilarious. I had some questions directed to him in another Olympic torch relay thread, but y'all know, being a proven trollish Sinophobic bigot, SamFisher can never be expected to answer these questions in earnest.

    Still, you wonder

    1) where on this board were those self-righteously indignant SamFisher posts against Nazi Olympic torch relay in 2004 when the Greeks were hosting?

    2) where was the angry protester SamFisher in early summer of 2004 when the Nazi Olympic torch passed New York City where he was residing, the one where he wouldn't have to leave a huge carbon foot print all over? LOL

    3) of many Nazi Germany inventions/brainchildren, including anti-tobacco research and experimental epidemiology, public health policy, magnetic tape in audio recording, data processing technology, a number of aeronautical breakthroughs directly benefitting modern aviation and space exploration, which one(s) has Sammy Fish rejected outright on grounds of Nazi-aversion?

    4) of course, in all these years, where is Sammy Fisher's condemnation on Dalai Lama's connections to his Nazi mentor Heinrich Harrer, the elite member of Hitler's Sturmabteilung and Schutzstaffel squad, and Dr. Bruno Beger, convicted Nazi war criminal, another member of the SS death squad, who was instrumental in conducting medical experiments on and murdering inmates in Auschwitz Death Camp?

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  14. SamFisher

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    ^ If I were a whiny baby, maybe I'd report this to a moderator.
    When Hitler died in his bunker in Berlin - the Dalai Lama was 9 years old.

    Read the thread my fellow BBS little emperor syndrome-sufferers - I have said many, many times that I didn't know this until recently.

    I have retroactively and prospectively condemned the idiotic torch relay a hundred times over.



    In any event I've made the point that there is very clear and obvious distincition between a ceremony invented as a rallying cry for aryan pride and the fact that national socialists breathed oxygen, which we also use.

    wnes if you like, read the prior posts to see why.
     
  15. weslinder

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    We don't have a large contingent of defensive North Koreans on the board.
     
  16. wnes

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    LOL ... OK, Sammy, your steadfast denial is taken at its face value, for now. We shall see in four years when UK hosts its Olympics whether you remain as adamant as ever, or there will be some newly found amnesia touching upon you.

    I don't know anybody on this board has ever made a Dalai-Hitler connection claim, so save your red herring for something else. Also, does Dalai Lama look like a 9-year old in the above two photos? :confused:

    Still, you are trying to dodge the question on other Nazi inventions, now that you know, are you going to disavow any of them, all of them? :rolleyes:
     
  17. wnes

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    As oppose to large contigent of cheerleaders for violent Tibetan terrorists on this board?
     
  18. SamFisher

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    Are you kidding? Read all the Tibetan threads - hell, read your own posts Making it seem like the Dalai Lama was working in the gas chambers of Auschwitz is stnadard operating procedure in terms of Chinese character - assassination, and is followed by bot-mobs across the world. You know this because you yourself do this.

    You know what? it's too bad that the 11-year old Dalai Lama didn't take a stand against national socialism, or know what it was, when he met Heinrich Harrer in 1946. I don't know how this jusifies the Chinese invasion and occupation of Tibet. I mean Pope Benedict XVI was a member of the Hitler Youth for god's sake.

    I do know that if Heinrich Harrer had taught a special nazi propagnda ceremony for use in Buddhist rituals that the Dalai Lama was using to this day that it would be a bad idea to continu using it.

    You mean the question that I answered a hundred times over yesterday? Read the thread.
     
  19. hotblooded

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    I rather be defensive than constantly attacking others
    funny that
     
  20. thumbs

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    Hmmmmm. This sounds analogous to the U.S. situation vis-a-vis Mexico and its population.
     

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