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More Than 500,000 Rally in L.A. for Immigrants' Rights

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by No Worries, Mar 26, 2006.

  1. No Worries

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    You have become unhinged.
     
  2. Aceshigh7

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    Wow, are you really this stupid? I stand by everything i've posted. Not what you claim I posted. There is a very big distinction between illegal and legal. Are you really too dense to grasp this?

    I'm not crying at all. I'm actually laughing at what a jackass you are.

    "Time to lie in it"? You seem to think I care what you and these other bleeding heart lemmings think about me? I truly don't.

    I know it must drive you nuts, but the greater American public doesn't share your views. The majority of our citizens want something done about this immigration mess, as evidenced by the overwhelming approval of anti-illegal immigration legislation in just about every jurisdiction that it has come before a public vote (the left-wing lobbyists go to great lengths to deny the public the opportunity to vote on these issues, I wonder why?). And when the people of California overwhelmingly approved the prop 187 measure, left wing partisians were successfully able to kill it in the courtroom. Nice job on subverting the will of the people. Nice to know the public's votes don't count!

    Something tells me when the browning of America has reached sufficient levels that these same left wing lobbyists & politicians will go to extreme measures to "make sure the public's votes count" then.

    Suck on it.
     
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  4. mleahy999

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    75% of the world is not doing well. It doesn't mean Mexicans or anyone with geographic proximity should have a free pass to come here. Take a number and apply like the rest of the humanity. Otherwise we'd have the entire African continent here if they could.

    And I think the Cubans getting to stay here once they touch US soil is idiotic. That really sent a message to Castro. Meanwhile, Haitians get sent right back. The Haitians are the poorest people in the western hemisphere.
     
  5. Batman Jones

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    It's really too bad Aceshigh's going to get banned. This is the face of a great many people that favor extreme measures to secure the Mexico border. "The browning of America..." Nice touch, racist.

    Before "Americans" illegally immigrated here, it was pretty "brown" too.
     
  6. HayesStreet

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    I think any able bodied person that wants to come here, assimilate and contribute to our country - should be able to. Open the borders.
     
  7. Aceshigh7

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    Racist? I'm fairly brown myself.

    The "browning of America" is an accepted sociological term coined by Richard Rodriguez of the Pacific News Service as far back as 1998 to describe the changing demographic upheaval that the nation is experiencing.

    I suggest you buy a clue man, or stay out of the converstation.
     
  8. Batman Jones

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    It would be a waste of money. First, it's hardly a conversation. And second, by the time I got back from the clue store you'd be banned.
     
  9. SamFisher

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    LOL, Aces, since you keep responding with all possible venom and defenses engaged, I can't help but think that this issue somehow matters to you. Of course, turning this into a one on one pissing match conmigo (that's spanish) may deceive some lesser lights into thinking that you're not trying to distance yourself from your earlier asinine statements, which you are, but let's turn back to those:

    Do you stand by the fact that all illegal immigrants are "pieces of sh-t"? And what do you have to say for the fact that you profiteer off their fecal-ness like a dung beetle? And what do you have to say for the fact that the free market has overruled the living hell out of you and your opinions, to the tune of millions and billions per year?

    Oh, and suck on what? I'm not really clear on that part of your phraseology. Elaborate, for my benefit.
     
  10. Saint Louis

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    I think Ace is about to go nuclear on everyone who disagrees with him. Time to head for the fallout shelter.
     
  11. Aceshigh7

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    I'm not trying to distance myself from my earlier statements at all. I firmly mean everything I said. I just don't want you to blatantly change an important part of my post.

    Yes I do.

    I don't.

    I think that it's quite sad that so many American business are such proponents of illegal immigration at the cost of a cultural genocide, all for the almighty dollar.

    The effect of illegal aliens on the U.S economy is quite overestimated. Even Alan Greenspan himself has admitted that he once viewed the illegal population as a much bigger variable in the economy than he does now. The majority of them work in the low skilled service industries. Any price increases that would be caused by the lack of illegals to do these jobs would be negligible and soon after absorbed and adjusted to by the market.

    Of course those marching in the streets of LA would have you believe that "They are the cog that keep this country running", but it simply isn't true. There are very many LEGAL immigrants from Mexico that are upholding the industries these illegals claim to be so integral to.

    Whether you realize it or not, you are losing this argument and every further post you make exposes the fallacy of your viewpoint even more Sam.

    I'm not the one that has to misquote and change your post in order to garner acceptance for my views.

    Heading to bed now. Have a nice evening.
     
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  12. SamFisher

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    How do you account for the fact that you leech off the hard work of these waking hours of these "piece of ****" every day of your life with seemingly little guilt, and without doing anything about the "cultural genocide" ( your hard work on the BBS aside)? Furthermore, what do you mean by "cultural genocide"? Are you bummed out that "8 Simple Rules For Dating My Daughter" is canceled while "George Lopez" is still on air? Elaborate.

    And, aside from the random third hand quote that you ascribe to Greenspan. . .and since we're exploring things you just fabricated out of your ass (talk about pieces of sh-t, ha :) ), please tell me of the ratio of illegal/legal Mexican immigrant labor on which you're expounding in expert fashion, and why legal Mexican immigrants are integral and illegal ones aren't. Obviously you have some data if you're going to talk about this, or else you're lying to us. Which is it?

    I do enjoy it when juco keyboard warriors such as yourself tell me how the world works. So again, elaborate some more on the impact of downward price pressures by illegal labor and why it's negligible. This ought to be very good.

    Oh, and by the way, in case you didn't notice, your post was, and remains, unacceptable to anybody, hence the fact that your patron saint in agitation runs from the substance of your asinine commentary (you would think he would teach you that hte idea of instigation is despoiled when you act like an offended little chica when people call you on it....you apparently do have much to learn....).

    Anyway, make sure you thank the piece of sh-t who cleaned your toilet this morning when you read this when you get to work.

    Nighty night.
     
  13. Luckyazn

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    Why dont we get all the Immigrants shipped back and lose their CHEAP LABOR

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    have the Katrina Evacees work instead :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
  14. Invisible Fan

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    America is headed into an industrial and technological battle of attrition with China and India (possibly the EU if they weren't pansies). Our population is aging and we need a stimulus in growth from immigration just as we have since the inception of this great country. For these Homestead job protectors, the Federal government projects that half of their managing workforce will retire in the next 20 years. The corporate industry will suffer similar demographic shortages. We might very well have a productivity deficit.

    Sweeping illegal immigrants under the table and isolating them only furthers the decay and supposed non-assimilation they supposedly harbor. All immigrants want opportunity, but mostly they want their children to have a better future. The gains of a productive child far outweighs a prison castaway. Unfortuneately, charity and goodwill ends at the site of the same people cleaning up your **** and taking out your trash.

    By 2020, Mexicans will be the new majority. There's no stopping it. I think those who want to sustain White Anglo-American culture should take the approach of integrating illegals into the established infrastructure instead of sequestering them into ad hoc ghettos and communities. Because the reality is that it's going to cost more to force every illegal out than to accept them as citizens and brothers.

    Why not train them to higher level jobs and turn them into immigrant hating Americans? That would be the most tangible sign of success for the results oriented...
     
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  15. HayesStreet

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    Great post.
     
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    As long as there is a huge disparity in standards of living, people will migrate from lower standard of living areas to higher standard of living areas using every opportunity and means possible. Even if you could build a wall around the country, it still won't work. Lots of illegal immigrants from overseas get here despite being separated by huge oceans (although probably not in the numbers from overland). So there is no way to shut the borders completely.

    You can try to aggressively find and deport alll the illegals but that also won't work. People who are caught will try again and new people won't be dissuaded since there is little to lose and everything to gain. Plus its a big country, plenty of places to hide and lay low.

    So what is the solution? Well I'm afraid there really isn't any. Ultimately the only real solution is for poverty in the world to end and for standards of living to be high throughout the world so that there isn't a rush of people trying to leave a country and enter another. Until then, illegal immigration is here to stay.
     
  17. No Worries

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    Make the punishment for hiring illegals dracion for the the employer.
     
  18. gifford1967

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    well said
     
  19. gifford1967

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    Aces,

    I'm willing to bet there isn't a person on this BBS who would stand behind your- illegal immigrants are pieces of sh_t comment. That is way over the line, even for tj and bigtexxx. My guess is not only would they never publicly state something like this, but I doubt in their hearts they feel this way.

    You haven't explained why you think people who suffer extreme hardship and risk their lives just to make a better life for themselves and their families are pieces of sh_t. Why is this so evil? As franchise pointed out there are many laws you can break without deserving to be called a piece of sh_t.
     
  20. glynch

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    Aceshigh7, in a recent thread you were proclaiming your Christianity. Could you explain how your version or Christianity is compatible with your attitude towards those immigrants who don't have documents? In the type of Christianity I was raised in, your statement and attitude is deplorable.
     

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