Are you happy that thousands of our soldiers died fighting in a war WE STARTED? Are you happy that a nuclear Iran is now the military superpower of the muslim world without Saddam keeping them in check? Are you happy that we spent money and time in Iraq instead of using the combined resources to take out OBL? Are you able to think a few steps ahead or did your optometrist misdiagnose your myopia?
Saddam Hussein was not going to keep Iran in check. We spent plenty of resources to get OBL. Iraq did not prevent us from going after him. How did you know I where glasses?
I know you WEAR glasses due to having an extreme astigmatism that SKEWS your vision, most likely some sort of muscle imbalance that requires you to need a prism to fix the DERP, and maybe a light yellow hunter's tint for style points at tea party rallies.
We also have a history of critical thinking. Calling the president you do not agree with is a common attack. Making fun that he likes chicken and watermelon is not. It makes no sense if he is white. The motive of the attack is the key to determining if it is based on race.
That's awesome. Aren't you the same guy who's first or second post on this BBS just a few days ago was calling some guy out over a spelling error?
Then people with your lack of knowledge or lack of sensitivity regarding the racial history of this nation are part of the problem and that needs to be fixed if we are going to move forward in any meaningful way regarding race relations.
So what about the dozens of other countries where people are being slaughtered by their gov't? You want to do something there too right?
No one is going to treat a president with kid gloves. Even less so with 9% unemployment. The point I am making is a philosophical one. I see a large gap in the logic used. There is a much more obvious racial shot in the 9th post of this thread.
Yes there are worse racial remarks that can be made(I haven't rechecked the 9th one yet) but that doesn't change the fact that given the history of this nation and the specific history regarding comparing blacks with monkeys that anytime that is used against a black person it is logical to call it out as being racist. I don't think any President including Obama should be treated with kid gloves, and I have numerous things about him, that I complain about.
Heck, I probably complain about the guy more than most of the liberals/progressives around here, but some of this stuff is beyond the pale.
You talk about history but then totally disregard the history of calling the president a monkey. This isn't someone being mad at their coworker or neighbor, it is a premier political public figure. Anyways I think I have a logical argument, but you will disagree.
What's amazing is that there IS legitimate criticism to make about Obama. And what really demonstrates that it's bias and bigotry is that most of the idiots that complain about Obama don't even know what he's really done wrong, instead they just say stupid uneducated things that aren't even true. I think it doesn't work....fortunately it seems that the American people don't fall for the slime machine of the Glenn Beck / Sarah Palin crowd. They make up their own minds. I think if the Becks and Palins of the world actually provided thoughtful criticism they'd find that a lot more people then bigots would listen to them.
I understand the argument you are making, but the history of comparing blacks with lower primates is more entrenched and goes further back than the white President being compared to a lower primate, that's all. If it was the president being compared to Hitler, I would agree with you that the comparison isn't necessarily racial, and has applied to other Presidents as well.
I actually think you both have a point here. Comparing presidents to monkeys has been going on for a while. Bush was definitely compared to a chimp many many times. So why is it that you can't return the favor with Obama. That being said...if some person makes a cartoon comparing Obama to a monkey it's hard to imagine they are not aware of the racial connotation. I grew up in the south and I have heard of blacks referred to as "that monkey" or "ape" or whatever many many times. I'd think any white American over the age of 18 is quite aware of it too. So when you put Bush as a monkey it's clearly to say he's an idiot. And maybe that's the message when you do it with Obama....but the very fact that you know the racial connotation that goes along with it...well, let's just say technically it might not be racist, but it certainly does smell it.
