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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by haven, Feb 24, 2003.

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  1. houstoncart

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  2. rockyymf

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    Acturally I think rox defence is ok. That's why boston shot 3 so badly today.
     
  3. houstoncart

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    Also knowing that we win more 2nd games on back-to-back nights is really comforting.
     
  4. Drewdog

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    I cant believe what I am reading anymore. Its gone from bad to worse.

    Whats the point in b****ing about a win?

    Yao was not getting good positioning in the paint.
    Yao was double teamed before he got the ball.
    Yao was the focus of the Celtics defense.

    The Celtics' game plan was to make life difficult for Yao - which they did - and have our outside shooting beat them. It didnt work and we won the game.

    Will we be able to do this every game? - of course not, but a win is a win is a win. And I will take that any day of the week.
     
  5. munco

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    Someone got the point of the thread! Hallelujah.

    BTW, I think it's not only recent fans that have started liking the Rockets that have compalined about Yao getting the ball. Check out the # of posts that some of these guys have. Also, the nba analysts and journalists aren't Rockets fans last I checked.

     
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    I liked the 1 play where Yao was gettin hammered/fronted/massacred, and the guards couldn't get him the ball... so Griffin comes to Yao's side and gets the pass from the guard, and he sets up where he's got the perfect angle to pass to Yao. Yao gets ball, foul, 2 ft's. Great play.

    I'm being a realist, an objective fan. I'm not going to get all gushy and look past the errors just because we won. Hell yes I'm glad that we won, but that doesn't mean that we can't discuss the problems... a win doesn't mean the game was played flawlessly.

    "Hey, great win, but most nights Francis and Mobley won't put up 38 shots combined at an over 55% clip. We can't rely on their shooting to win ballgames when you have a young force in the paint. " - Clutch
     
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    G'nite yall.

    Go Rox.
     
  8. Roc Paint

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    Screw Sportcenter and all of their negativity.
     
  9. haven

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    It's like one of those "no, no, no, no... yes!" shots. You're thrilled it goes in... but you still don't want the player to take the same shot next time up the court. And there's nothing wrong with saying so.

    So, the general theory from many posters seems to be:

    "It's ok to complain after losses, but all wins should be greeted with joy and unconditional approval."

    That's ridiculous. My first reaction at looking at the win was "oh, good... we won." My second was, "but damn, that was an ugly win."

    And wins like this just reinforce the chronic Francis/Mobley inability to get Yao the ball.

    You know what? I don't really care how the Celtics were defending Yao. He's a goddamned 7'5 center with a jump shot. What the **** is so hard about getting him the ball? Yao doesn't have to be exclusively a post player. If nothing else, he can pull the defense out for better penetration by hitting the 16 foot jump shot.

    Yao doesn't have to take 20 shots every night. but he has to be an important part of the offense. And Francis, our point guard, has to get him involved. If he isn't able to get into the low post... then in other ways.

    Until that happens, we're wasting our 1a option. Win or lose... that's bad. And the problem doesn't go away when Francis/Mobley happen to be hot. It's just hidden for a little while.
     
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    did you see the game???
     
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    The guys (meaning Cat and Steve) absolutely played their asses off and ultimately pulled a big win out for the team. Congrats to them and the rest of the Rockets!! :D :D :D

    I'm happy that we won.

    Now, having said that...I watched the ENTIRE GAME and I can't even count how many times I watched Yao Ming FIGHTING HIS ASS OFF TO GET POSITION, only to have S.F. and Mobley dribble to the OTHER SIDE OF THE COURT, away from Yao!!

    So, for those of you who said he wasn't getting good position, I say bullcrap!! He was/did, and he was totally ignored. I honestly think that one of the reasons the Rockets don't try and get him the ball more is because with the exception of Glen Rice, they all know how bad they suck at making entry passes.

    This again is attributable to only one man: Rudy! The problem with tonight's win is that Rudy will only focus on the positives and fail to say to Cat and Steve what so many of the posters have pointed out: We cannot win consisistenly with our guards playing like this!!

    I hope Yao gets as many shots tomorrow night as S.F. or Cat got tonight!! If that happens, then I guarantee a win in NYC. If they shoot as many times there as in Boston, we are screwed!!
     
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    I like how after Jeff made his point about fairweather fans how ppl now insert a line or two in the beginning of their post saying they're happy with a win and then spend the next 10,000 blasting the rockets with every single negative angle that comes to mind. Happy? Coulda fooled me
     
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    NBA TONIGHT comments

    Tim Legler- "other teams can see Yao in the middle, but his teammates can't..."

    I don't like Tim Legler, but the guy is right. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that we got the win.

    Despite the win, we NEED to give Yao more touches. Come April, the inside game is what wins games...
     
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    Don't worry haven...sooner or later, after ass-whooping, after ass-whooping in the play-offs. Francis and Mobley will realize they can't play the selfish ball. Sure, if they were hot, go for it, a game here or there. But, in the long run that won help us.

    And if they don't learn. We'll never win a Title.
     
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    Yep. You're right. By the way. That "no, no, no! Yes!" shot is a funny comment. I've seen Rudy do that. :D
     
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    and who was the pass going to???? to yao.. mobley did miss it.. but when he took it to the hole he tried to give it to yao but the guys where too close with about 5 celtics around to boot
     
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    oh and by the way did sportscenter or nba 2nite say anything about being down 15 with 7 mins left??? uh no.... we get no respect.. houston does not get respect, we in houston know this... any bandwagoner will not, so i wont blame all of you just most of you
     
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    It seems as though SportsCenter is going back to the basics (old school). A cultural change? Did Yao wake the writers and broadcasters up?

    Face it. SportCenter dislikes Francis and Mobley selfish play. They addore Yao. Why? Not sure. It could be a throw back to the days of old. Yao brings them memories of "Knick ball of the 70's." "Celtic ball of the 60's and 80's."

    Yao is refreshing, "new" and back to basics. Quite a change from the "be like Mike" 90's.
     
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    Yao's weakness in catching the ball on the move is magnified when teams double team him. I think SF and Mobley were afraid of passing Yao the ball as Yao could fumble the ball on the move.

    If Yao has a sure hand catching the ball when he is on the move, I am sure he will have more touches.

    Is this something can be fixed by more practice or weight training ?
     
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    Sensible posts!!

    We need consistent wins!


     

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