More of the TRUTH slowly leaks out...Iraqi Scientists tell of obfuscation

Did you see anything in my post about "democrat" or "liberal"? If you're not talking about me specifically, then OK. Also, the point wasn't addressed. People were willing to give the UN so much time to find WMD's but the US only gets a few weeks before we decide that there aren't any period? Tell that to the families of the Kurds that were ethnically clensed by sadaam and his nerve gas. Oh, but I'm sure sadaam got rid of them all years ago just like the UN told him to, being the great guy he is and all...

 

Fine, but let's also hold off on the "he doesn't have any because he didn't use them on us" exclaimations as well.

 

I finally couldn't resist and read this article and again JohnHeath, you have posted something that suggests nothing and made an outrageous claim. Even the students and professors who say they were ordered to destroy the bacteria, say they don't understand why.

"Maybe some were banned. I don't know. We just wanted to avoid problems," Rasheed said.


He said the petri dishes held Staphylococcus and E. coli bacteria and a fungus that can cause severe skin problems - all commonly used for experiments.

 

Charge... say it with me now CHARGE. Sans Proof. No corraborating evidence. I'm sorry but there is no way in hell that they could have WMD's the UN miss seeing ANY for 12 years and then we still not be able to locate them after we have full control of the country. What you don't seem to realize is that WE (Dems and Republicans alike) are ...........waiting................waiting...............waiting........... for proof that they ever had WMD's.

 

ever??? how about when they used nerve gas on their own people?? that proof enough for ya?

 

Maybe someone should ask the Kurds that tried to oust saddam after GW I...oh wait, they were gassed to death. My bad.

 

I'm waiting for evidence that members of the UN were spying. What you've posted proves nothing. It suggests that perhaps the Iraqis occasionally had some ideas that the UN might be going to a certain place. That could be from overheard coversation, bugged conversation, or any number of things. If they truly had any forwarning at all.

 

Assuming the scientist is telling the truth, it may be evidence like I said that someone had a hunch where the inspectors would go. It doesn't provide evidence that anyone among the UN inspectors was spying for Iraq.

 

Then why didn't the first Bush help them? If we were so worried about the Iraqi people why didn't invade a long time ago?

 

I know the whole point of surprise inspections, because they don't end up as a total surprise doesn't mean that one of the inspectors was a spy. I listed several other ways that Iraqis could have found out, and that's only the tip of the iceberg.

I've worked as a tip at companies and heard things that I wasn't supposed to know. Once a company gave me, a temp, key to improtant records because it their employees weren't allowed to have access to those records for security reasons. Now I don't think who ever put those security measures in place thought it would be a good idea for a temp who'd been there for two days to have access to those records but in reality that's how it worked out. Of course I didn't do anything unseemly, but I could have.

I'm not saying that kind of thing is what happened, but it's a possibility. We don't know.

 

The Kurds were gassed just after the first Gulf War. What did we do? Nothing. Not a thing. "Rise up against Saddam" said Bush I. Oh crap they actually did it. Too bad we didn't offer any assistance.

"The order was to hide anything that might make the inspectors suspicious. Any bacterium, any fungus. I destroyed seven petri dishes in the autoclave and I put the others in the trunk of my car."

I have already gone over this...

Even the Scientists at the University were laughing at the inspections. Destroying EMPTY petri dishes inside what amounts to an industrial dishwasher.
Now, with the US just dying to find something to give em a reason to invade they were probably freaked out at the notion of a professor farting and an inspector screaming "WMD! WMD!" and causing an incident; then subsequently disappearing thanks to Saddam's baddies.

 

big mistake...hopefully we've made up for it by taking his punk ass out of power.

 

huh?? your argument wasn't around "why didn't we help earlier?" your statement was you were still waiting for proof they ever had WMD. those were your words. dodge away.

 

Because we were acting in accordance with the UN. Isn't that what all the anti-war people wanted us to do this time?

Besides it still doesn't change the fact that saddam gassed his own people therefore proving he has WMD's.

 

Then why did Bush I suppress evidence of gassing from coming before the UN, and give Saddam a 1 billion dollar loan even after the gassing happened? I don't have the link, but we've been over that part before in another thread.

 

Then the WMD's should be relatively easy to find, right? Oh that's right, that was 12 years ago.
Look, I'm not going to apologize for Saddam's regime. I'm super freaking happy he's gone, and I know there is a special ring of hell reserved for his murdering a$$. The point of the article was that Iraqi scientists were hiding what could possibly be deemed as materials to make biological weapons. I find it rather sad that UN weapons inspectors search for over a decade and found nothing of consequence. Since that didn't fit W's time table he called Blix an idiot, accused the UN of being spies for Saddam's weapons makers, and invaded anyway.