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More media misrepresentation on Iraq: WMD and Kay's report

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by treeman, Oct 7, 2003.

  1. GATER

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    And the reason it's not known is that it is not a matter of public record. SAIC is an entirely emplotee-owned company. From their websire:

    "Only employees, directors, and consultants may purchase stock or receive stock bonuses or option awards. SAIC has the right to repurchase its stock from stockholders when their affiliation with the company ends. SAIC generally exercises this right to assure that SAIC remains employee-owned. SAIC now ranks as the largest employee-owned research and engineering firm in the nation."

    Generally excercises the right?

    http://www.saic.com/empown/
     
  2. treeman

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    Ah, yes. more unbiased analysis of the situation, this time character assassination. OK...

    Glen Rangwala the rabid peacenik activist:

    http://traprockpeace.org/glenrangwalaindex.html

    Please read links to articles by the author. His unbiased neutrality will become instantly apparent.

    Glen, the man:

    http://www.eccmei.net/~eccmei/P/auth4.html

    Note his work to end sanctions and free Saddam of those pesky Americans and inspectors. Also his attempts to get US troops labeled war criminals for their actions in former Yugoslavia.

    Glen, famous author of the "20 Lies About the War" joke, as posted on the website of the socialist Transnational Foundation for Peace and Future Research, a bastion of moderate neutrality:

    http://www.transnational.org/features/2003/RangwalaWhitaker_20LiesWar.html

    Host of a Pro-Palestine/anti-Jew website for his students and brainwashees:

    http://student.cs.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC/authors/GlenRangwala.php

    A guide in the "Fourth Freedom Forum", a leftist antiwar organization that seeks to limit nations' abilities to engage in even defensive wars:

    http://www.fourthfreedom.org/php/a-index.php

    There is more, much more (just google it), but you get the picture. Not exactly one who should be throwing stones.

    At any rate, I have a hard time thinking of anyone who would be more qualified than Dr. Kay at this task. Hans Blix, maybe? (joke)
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    While it's true that Kay hasn't found the WMD yet, I would think that the likelyhood becomes less and less, not more likely. Wouldn't he search the sights that intel told him were mostly likely to contain to the WMD, or we start elsewhere? Assuming he goes to the most likely first, then the farther down the list he moves the less likely it will be that they would be found. Isn't that logical?

    I have to disagree with Treeman's question about Saddam wanting to have Chem weapons and programs, and agree with whether the future desire of the dictator to gain those was worth a preemptive war when clearly inspections which weren't even finished were working.
     
  4. GATER

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    Qualified in which respect? To find WMD's from this point forward? Or as the final word upon whether WMD's existed in Iraq prior to the US invasion?

    Considering Kay had been held hostage by Saddam and he has held the opinion that Saddam has had WMD's from the early 90's until now, I'd say Kay has a vested interest in their current "discovery". And therefore I would agree about his abiliities.

    But given his mind has already been made up for 12 or so years, I personally have a problem with his objectivity. If he finds barely a trace and gives us a "but they were here" report, I'm skeptical. There are intelligent arguments on both sides of that issue and (for now) I've drawn my conclusions.
     
  5. underoverup

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    Here are some articles from your 'unbiased' "Center for Security Policy" --- Treeman you are a complete joke.

    'Peace' Movement

    The battlefields in Iraq and at home
    Diana West, TownHall.com, 19 August 2003

    Repressing ROTC
    Christina Hoff Sommers, Washington Post, 10 August 2003

    Peace activist has second thoughts about ANSWER
    FrontPageMagazine.com, 13 June 2003

    Myth of the Muslim 'hate crime' epidemic
    Michelle Malkin, TownHall.com, 29 May 2003

    FBI bags Muslim Students Association (MSA) figure
    Wall Street Journal, 29 May 2003

    A Muslim speaker is denounced by Islamic extremists
    Stephen Schwartz, FrontPageMagazine.com, 20 May 2003
    The real roots of Islamic extremism

    The first 90 years of Arnold Beichman
    David Brooks, Weekly Standard, 12 May 2003

    Who's protecting the President?
    Steven C. Baker, FrontPageMagazine.com, 06 May 2003

    Where are the moderate Muslims?
    Michael Anbar, FrontPageMagazine.com, 02 May 2003

    Funding anti-U.S. demonstrators
    Max Primorac, Washington Times, 02 May 2003

    The critics are wrong again
    Charles Krauthammer, TownHall.com, 02 May 2003

    In spite of naysayers, America moved, and it won
    Editorial, National Review Online, 01 May 2003

    Everything the left said about the war is wrong
    David Horowitz, TownHall.com, 30 April 2003

    Freedom of speech means freedom to criticize the critics
    Hugh Hewitt, Weekly Standard, 25 April 2003

    Middleman links British anti-war leader to Saddam
    The Times (London), 24 April 2003

    Daniel Pipes: A scholar we should listen to
    R. Emett Tyrell, TownHall.com, 24 April 2003

    Islamist power play
    Center for Security Policy, 21 April 2003

    Elites desire American failure
    Clifford D. May, National Review Online, 21 April 2003

    Brainwashing preschool peaceniks
    Michelle Malkin, TownHall.com, 16 April 2003

    Out of the 'quagmire': US victory trumps some 'news' reporting
    J. Michael Waller, Insight, 14 April 2003

    The fiction of the peaceniks is overdue for pulping
    Michael Gove, The Times (London), 08 April 2003

    The people want victory; give it to them
    Dick Morris, FrontPageMagazine.com, 07 April 2003

    The peace movement isn't about peace
    David Horowitz, FrontPageMagazine.com, 07 April 2003

    A strange disease afflicts pacifists
    Michael Novak, National Review Online, 07 April 2003

    Domestic fifth column
    FrontPageMagazine.com, 04 April 2003


    http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/index.jsp?topic=peacemvmt&section=featured
     

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