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Moochie Norris traded to New Orleans..

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ctry2582, Feb 13, 2006.

  1. Willis25

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    maybe they just wanted to dump Mooche's salary -- they can waive this guy and activate Berry
     
  2. moestavern19

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    Deal says Moochie + Cash Considerations


    Why waive the dude?

    He's only 20 with a couple years of experience and was considered to be a lottery pick 2 seasons ago. Even if he's the next Tsiktishvilli or whatever it's still low risk high reward.
     
  3. Rocketball

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    This is the big one that should open the flood gates for everyone to start trading..........and most "experts" thought it was the Artest deal holding everything up.

    Now, San Antonio and Dallas........let me see yor response, try and top that!!!
     
  4. krosfyah

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    We must have invoked our trade exception. Sweet. Finally dump Mooch's contract! I wonder how many years Lampe has?
     
  5. JumpMan

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    Cool, we needed a Euro guy, it would have been funny if we got back Boki.
     
  6. anitasri

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    I agree- this looks like we are packaging for someone else!
     
  7. barryxzz

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    There have to be more trades down the line. Maybe he is for another team Rockets plans to trade with. Otherwise I don't see the point: From his stats, he is at best 3rd string center, we have Deke and Stro can play the center and also we have JH, Stro and Hayes at PF. So, what's the deal? :confused:
     
  8. Thanos

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    Here's some info:

    Maciej Lampe was heralded as the next great foreign big man going into draft night, 2003. The Knicks came away with a coup, as Lampe plummeted out of the first round due to his unknown contract status in Europe. Lampe looked good in the summer league, but then appeared to get lazy and lose his work ethic. According to many within the Knicks organization, including one commentator I talked to, the Knicks felt Lampe had grown content with his progress and stopped working hard. The organization also felt Lampe wanted to play the small forward, while the team wanted him to bang down low. It will be interesting to see if he ever develops into the player he was supposed to be, and if he can develop an intense attitude towards the game.

    http://www.allsports.com/nba/knicks/012304.html

    by Sean Deveney


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    Lampe's draft night gone bad

    July 1, 2003 Print it


    I sat with Keith Kreiter, the agent for 18-year-old Polish forward Maciej Lampe, two weeks ago at a Chicago eatery, discussing his client. I had heard about Lampe's skills from a handful of NBA personnel people, who added that the kid was a sure top 10 pick. He's 7-0, and by the time he is done growing he could be 7-2. He can shoot. He can handle the ball. He can play three positions.

    All the scouting reports were good. But I asked Kreiter about the one hang-up that can come around with international players -- the contract in Europe, in Lampe's case, with Spanish powerhouse Real Madrid. Won't be a problem, Kreiter said.

    Indeed, it was not a problem. The international governing body for basketball, FIBA, earlier had sent out a letter acknowledging Lampe's buyout clause with Real Madrid and clearing him to join the NBA. But that changed on draft day, when FIBA sent out another letter saying that Lampe does not have a buyout clause. Lampe had no time to assure teams his status was set. NBA teams had no time to react to a change in the draft board.

    "That's just wrong," Kreiter says. "For them to do that at the 11th hour like that is wrong. We're going to have the best lawyers in the world working on this."

    Kreiter adds: "We knew about the contract. We had a buyout."

    Of course, it's too late for legal action to help out Lampe's draft status.

    Lampe was the NBA's draft-day nightmare last week, the young guy projected to go in the lottery but still sitting in the green room, eyes getting redder as the first round dwindled to the 20s and, finally, ran out altogether. Seems the letter FIBA sent spooked lottery teams, but if Lampe was a top 10 pick before FIBA's mystery letter, he certainly would be worth a chance late in the teens or early 20s, no matter what his contract status.

    But a plain fact was revealed by Lampe's drop: NBA teams do not adjust well on draft night. There will be a legal fight this summer, but Kreiter says he expects Lampe to be in a Knicks uniform next season. If that's the case, there will be many teams that will regret their lack of flexibility.

    "When you have your list of guys," says one NBA scout, "you are not ready for someone else to be there. We talked about him briefly, but then we stuck with our list."

    The Knicks, holding the first pick in the second round, had considered Lampe with their No. 9 pick -- New York worked him out the day before the draft and liked him. With the first pick in the second round, New York general manager Scott Layden needed all of about 15 seconds to choose Lampe. Afterward, Layden was beaming, saying he can envision Lampe filling the team's long-vacant center spot.

    For now, though, it will be a litigious summer for Lampe, an intelligent, well-spoken player who knows five languages and could become a national hero. Lampe could turn to international courts to sort everything out, and those courts generally have sided with players in such matters -- in the cases of Jake Tsakalidis and Nene Hilario, for instance -- and the fact is, Lampe is a player who wants to play in the NBA, not in Spain. These matters always seem to work out.

    Lampe will be a Knick, and though his spirits were buoyed by the hometown crowd at the Theater at Madison Square Garden, his induction into the NBA was not what he expected. What is unfortunate is that he never will get his draft day back. If everything works out well, though, he will make teams regret that they can't get their draft day back, either.

    http://i.tsn.com/voices/sean_deveney/20030701.html

    And guess what? The youth movement continues. And BTW, we have no backup pg. More trading in the works, it would seem.
     
  9. room4rentsf

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    well Deke will retire at the end of next year and we need to start thinking about his replacement.

    Gives us someone who is versatile enough to play PF or C and you know we could use the extra height. Are we one of the shortest teams in the NBA? *average height?

    J
     
  10. Two Sandwiches

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    At least he's young...
     
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    Looks like his salary this season is about 900K and this is the last season of his contract.
     
  12. pirc1

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    Even Deke is on his way out say either this or next year, do you expect this guy to take his place? I hope not. :eek:
     
  13. DeAleck

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    I remember this guy. He came in the NBA at a very young age, and was said to be a great prospect (the next Dirk, Peja, Pau... whatever you got the idea). Then, before the draft, people found this kid sucks more than Skitishvilli and Darko and an old vacuum combined, and his draft position dropped like a rock. He got picked up by NYK, and then later traded to Pheonix in the Marbury trade. A couple years later, it's proven he really really sucks.

    Here is what you get for sucking this bad --- you get traded for Moochie Norris... MoTay you listening?
     
  14. Castor27

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    NO/OKC is under the cap so the salaries didn't have to match.


    Frankly I am glad they made the deal. Moochie was getting millions to do what most of us pay to do. sit around and clap and cheer when the Rockets did something good. At least Lampe will do it cheaper, and hey he can speak Polish.
     
  15. ShadyMcGrady

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    To get rid of Moochie :D .

    And to get a backup C which we SORELY need for the future, so don't expect him to play now. His playing time should be extremely scarce, probably none.

    I'm assuming that he'll work with the team all season, all off-season etc. and when deke retires, he'll be our backup C.

    If the guy has got potential, then this was a good trade.
     
  16. Jared Novak

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    This guy was supposed to be the next great European player and fell dramatically on draft day a couple of years back. I think he was taken with the first pick in the second round by New York.

    Maybe we can catch lightning in a bottle with this guy, at the worst he is six fouls off the bench.
     
  17. pirc1

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    So basically Houston got a Darko light. ;)
     
  18. barryxzz

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    According to Thanos' post, he got lazy. If it's true, I don't see him doing well under JVG. Plus, don't we have Badman developing in Euroleague? At least he could rebound in the summer league, I bet he has a much better chance to become our backup center than this guy.
     
  19. Jacquescas

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    i've heard he has very good size and athleticism, it would be nice to see him out there with Yao


    i think it makes room maybe for another move. remember this guy isn't even 21 years old yet.
     
  20. underoverup

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    hey, we can polish jokes now! :D
     

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