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Montero Returns

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by rocketlaunch, Nov 12, 2022.

  1. rocketlaunch

    rocketlaunch Contributing Member

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    Wow thought he'd get $7-8M given the spotty track record over 2 years
     
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  3. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    The pitching coaches must really believe they permanently fixed him. Looks like Crane ain't F'ing around this off season.
     
  4. desihooper

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    Big money, hopefully they can keep him healthy so he can continue his contributions!!
     
  5. Trader_Jorge

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    Gotta say I don’t like this deal. Feels rich. Didn’t always trust Montero in the playoffs. Lots of jams and traffic.
     
  6. Phillyrocket

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    Kudos to the co host with Clint Stoerner on the drive home yesterday he called it. I think it was Bart Scott not Show.

    Anyways strange to me when you already have Stanek, Neris, Abreu, Pressley, and some guys who could step in from the minors.

    That and how fickle RPs could be makes this really questionable. Crane must really believe in a loaded bullpen.
     
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  7. Stoic Rob

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    Wow, gotta say I am surprised. Yes, he was great at times last year, but the lack of track record and the fact that Abreu could/should take his spot going forward, relegating Montero to a likely 7th inning kind of guy (Stanek’s role last year), raises several questions.

    Was this Crane’s initiative? (Wanting to keep the champion monster bullpen intact?

    Did the pitching coaches give assurance that Montero is only gonna get better perhaps?

    Were the times that Montero struggled last year (not often but it happened) due to not being accustomed to the usage? (which may not be an issue moving forward

    Without a current GM, who exactly put the structure of the deal in place? (Leading back to question #1)

    And now what about other signings? Harder to resign JV? And maybe 1 less addition from all the names we have heard
     
  8. punkoholic

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    Good to have him back. The term scares me more than the money. Hopefully his success continues. What I keep forgetting is the playoffs bullpen success was still done without Maton or Martinez. Great depth.
     
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    Trader_Jorge King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    If this high dollar move signals that Crane is going ALL OUT to spend money to repeat as Champs, then I’ll feel better about it.
     
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    Maybe Bags or Dusty suggested to Crane that Montero should be kept at all costs.
     
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    I feel similar. Agreed.
     
  13. Stoic Rob

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    Well we saw how much Dusty loved to use Montero, deservedly so most of the time. Perhaps you are right and Crane does take those things to heart.
     
  14. Radricky

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    If Dusty really does have cranes ear it was pretty clear how much dusty loved Montero this year.
     
  15. the shark

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    How quickly they forget!!!!!

    SEA GM1
    1.0 IP
    0 r
    0 h
    0 bb
    0 k

    SEA GM2
    1.1 IP
    0 R
    0 h
    2 bb
    1 k

    SEA GM3
    1 IP
    0 r
    1 h
    2 K
    0 bb

    NYY GM1
    0.2 IP
    1 r
    2 h
    2 k
    1 bb

    NYY GM3
    0.1 IP
    0 r
    0 h
    0 k
    0 bb

    NYY GM4
    1 IP
    0 r
    0 h
    1 k
    0 bb

    PHI GM1
    1 IP
    0 r
    0 h
    1 k
    0 bb

    PHI GM2
    1.2 IP
    0 r
    1 h
    1 k
    1 bb

    PHI GM4
    1.0 IP
    0 r
    0 h
    1 k
    0 bb

    PHI GM5
    0.1 IP
    1 r
    1 h
    1 k
    2 bb

    4 for 4 in Holds

    The PHI series, the more a team sees a pitcher they get more acclimated to their stuff (which may have been the case in GM5 which was the 4th time they saw him in less than a week). Also asking him to go more then 1 IP in that gm and where he got into trouble (same with GM2).

    Outside of that he had the one bad game against the NYY in GM1.

    Dude was F'n NAILS in the playoffs!!!!
     
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    To quote EG, "What's so fukin' funny?"
     
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    Exactly...

    Pressly (who made $10/mil last year as a closer) says.... Excuse me? He's getting what?
     
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    It would be one thing if the Astros were desperate for relievers, but they aren’t and Montero is a luxury. A contract like this the best you can hope for is to break even. No upside and yet it was signed the first week of FA? Lmao.
     
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  19. Trader_Jorge

    Trader_Jorge King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    My comment was "lots of jams and traffic". Half the games he had traffic. He damn near blew Game 5 of the World Series -- Pressly did an escape act to get out of Montero's jam in the 8th. Montero wasn't trusted to be used in Game 6 as a result. Feels like he consistently fell behind batters as well. I like Montero, but this is a rich contract for a reliever who has had exactly 1 good season... and was perhaps our 3rd or 4th best relief option.
     
  20. the shark

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    This postseason:

    9.1 IP
    2 R
    5 h
    10 K
    6 bb

    Walks are high but again a majority of these happened when they asked him to go more then 1 IP.
     
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