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moment of enlightenment

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by verse, Mar 15, 2004.

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  1. Jeff

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    I will say this...

    Enlightenment is hard work. Even after you have a moment of "sartori" (the Japanese name for it), you still have to go back to your normal life and find a way to keep that enlightenment as part of you. Habits can be tough to break even if you glimpsed at what you can be.

    As Buddhists are fond of saying:

    Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.
    After enlightentment, chop wood and carry water.

    It's just the realization that our lives go on and it isn't the moment that is as important as how we use that moment to make ourselves and the lives of those around us better for it.
     
  2. mrpaige

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    He just seemed to me to be saying that verse's epiphany was going to be short-lived and that he would fall back into the same patterns as before and bothered by the same things as before.

    And I would disagree with that because people can change aspects of their lives. Verse was not claiming he had everything figured out, he just came to a realization about this one area. So when the response was that it wouldn't last, it seemed to me like Meowgi was talking about the specific realization that verse was speaking of.

    The way Meowgi phrased his response sounded to me like he meant that growth was impossible. That these new realizations would not last or change his life in any way.
     
  3. junglerules

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    I just wanted to add that I love that line from that song. I think it's also important to add the very next line....

    "There's no substitute for time."

    It's a hard thing to accept sometimes, but time does wonders in healing wounds, whether you "think" that's what you want or not.
     
  4. MR. MEOWGI

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    Me? Wise? :D I don't know about that...
    Basically I am talking Buddhist philosophy and practice. There is tons about it on the net. I will try to email you tonight with some more info and thoughts.
     

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