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Mohammed Ali is dead

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by ferrari77, Jun 3, 2016.

  1. cheke64

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    People like him don't exist anymore
     
  2. SamFisher

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    I would advise you to never reproduce for the sake of the children but your online persona may be the most effective prophylaxis ever devised
     
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  3. B-Bob

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    Commodore or Ali?
     
  4. OkayAyeReloaded

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    One of my heroes growing up. Very sad, there has never been another like him in sports. RIP GOAT

    This is a documentary called "When We Were Kings" about Ali vs Foreman or the famous Rumble in the Jungle. It's one of the best I've seen about him and showcases why actors had difficulty portraying or even coming close to the real Muhammad Ali's charisma on screen.

    If you've never seen a movie or old footage about him, I recommend you start here. It's really entertaining and worth your time.

    Part 1

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xo4kp3_leon-gast-1996-when-we-were-kings-partie-1_sport#tab_embed

    Part 2

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xo4l8l_leon-gast-1996-when-we-were-kings-partie-2_sport
     
  5. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to B-Bob again.
     
  6. calurker

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    The money that Ali gave up was a lot of money back then. Don't act as if he had only given up a couple years of blue collar level salary.

    Do you also think that the million bucks that Donald Trump was given as seed money was neither significant or meaningful?
     
  7. rocketsjudoka

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    As a martial artist and one who has fought in combative sports I am very sad at the death of Muhammad Ali.

    Ali was a true fighter who fought not just in the ring but also in the battlefield of culture and ideas. Long after he left the ring he fought with dignity against the disease that robbed him of the physical grace and language that was the hallmark of his career.

    As a boxer he was a genius. He had great physical gifts but understood psychology and was a brilliant strategist. That is what allowed him to break down and defeat fighters who were stronger and more physically imposing than him. For as much as people characterized Ali as a loud mouth and a braggart Rope a Dope took both brilliance to think of it but also an iron discipline to commit to it. That strategy required phenomenal physical training to harden one's body to take the punishment that boxers like Foreman and Norton could dish out and also the mental fortitude to be patient while having a Foreman or Norton rain down body blows. Beyond just the strategy in the ring Ali understood how his whole persona was itself a weapon and how he could use that to unnerve an opponent even before they stepped into the ring.

    Like most who engage in combative sports Ali did also show his humanity and even humility. One of my favorite stories about him was at the end of the Thrilla in the Manilla when a bruised, battered but victorious called over Joe Frazier's son to apologize to him about all of the things he said about his father.

    All of those things made Ali a man that I could look up and someone that earned the moniker The Greatest!
     
  8. Deckard

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    I'm going to start calling him The Ensign. Did the guy forget that this is Hangout, not The Basement?
     
  9. Commodore

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    here's a good presentation of Ali's time as a black separatist under the spell of Elijah Muhammad and The Nation of Islam, it's a sad story

    http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4602031/mohammed-ali

    I don't blame Ali (he was a kid) and he largely repudiated it later in life, but this is the period he's celebrated for by the media.

    And Sam Fisher, I'll spare you from continuing your creepy stalking campaign, I know I'm an awful person for making note of these facts.
     
  10. Air Langhi

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    I think rope a dope was a a pretty dumb idea. Letting a guy like a Foreman punch you for a round is not a good idea for long/short term health. George Foreman hits hard. I think the strategies for guy like Mayweather and Hopkins are much safer. Don't take clean shots and keep moving.

    However you have to admire a guy for be willing to take those shots.
     
  11. HR Dept

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    Wrong thread...
     
  12. Jontro

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    I hope he truly has been getting himself ready to meet God. Not to get this into a D&D match, but I find this inspirational.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Bq40aKHyxIA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Sorry the text is in French(?).
     
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  13. Dairy Ashford

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    Well, attaining and maintaining professional level athleticism and opportunities is probably taxing enough that it doesn't leave room for much else social or politically. Separately that's probably as good a reason as any that some of the best team athletes can spend four years taking and legitimately passing a full load of classes, but not have a degree or any interest in obtaining one.
     
  14. ChrisBosh

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    RIP, Mohammed Ali was the greatest. He was larger than life. Very few sports athletes touched so many people across the world for reasons more than his sport. There will never be anyone else like him.
     
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    Man just stop, no one cares what Jack Cashill has to say about Ali.

    Why do you insist posting about this in this thread? You realize there is an Ali thread in the D&D right? I've posted my response to your silly comment in there.
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    I would LOVE to see another minority group that was enslaved for 300 years and then were disenfranchised and segregated and were victims of explicit racist polices that even the likes of Bigtexxx and Commodore would agree were racist polices for another additional 100 years to be ultra pacifist non-separatists who use ZERO violence. What a dick people like Commadore are. No perspective. No ****ing empathy.

    God damn, I'm quite surprised that the entire black population of America didn't just outright revolt and start a civil war before the events that lead up to the Civil Rights act. Other groups have revolted FOR FAR LESS. This is the blunt honest truth but our founding fathers revolted for less. How dare you place judgement on those Black people who were separatists. I mean white people in 1820 wanted to separate because of ****ING TARIFFS!

    ****IGN PERSPECTIVE! LEARN IT COMMODORE.

    More power to the Black Panther Party for exercising their second amendment rights in order to protect their other rights. Good on them!


    Conservative today - "We must be allowed our second amendment right to own firearms in case of government tyranny" ..... except in the 1900s where Black people were explicitly targeted by a tyrannical racist government.

    Apparently that second amendment right is reserved for white people only.
     
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  17. B-Bob

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    Then one may ask why you focused on that aspect in a respectful thread about a national icon passing away. (That's rhetorical.) Anyway, you've done your damage, and as others have said, take it to the D&D thread, post haste.

    We kind of have to rope a dope the Commodores and bigtexxx's of the board just to celebrate anything or anyone.
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    The last twenty seconds of that speech is the ultimate 'mic drop' moment I've ever witnessed. He makes such valid ponts.

    Why should he fight and die for a country fighting random Asian men who never interfered with his human rights when the country he fights for continuously violates his human rights and dignity.
     
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    amazing ...thanks for posting
     
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