With the draft a month away. I figured we could use a thread to post various mock drafts in. Either our own or ones done by "experts". Todd McShay's latest mock is based on a scenario where the Lions don't take Matt Stafford. He has us taking Beanie Wells at 15. I don't know if that's better or worse than the mock McShay did that had us taking Mark Sanchez. But in both mocks, he has us using our first pick to take a player at a position where we already have a good starter. http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/insider/columns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=4020260 1. Detroit Lions - Jason Smith OT Baylor 2. St. Louis Rams - Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech 3. Kansas City Chiefs - Aaron Curry OLB Wake Forest 4. Seattle Seahawks - Matt Stafford QB Georgia 5. Cleveland Browns - Brian Orakpo DE Texas 6. Cincinnati Bengals - Eugene Monroe OT Virginia 7. Oakland Raiders - B.J. Raji DT Boston College 8. Jacksonville Jaguars - Mark Sanchez QB USC 9. Green Bay Packers - Aaron Maybin DE Penn State 10. San Francisco 49ers - Andre Smith OT Alabama 11. Buffalo Bills - Everette Brown DE Florida State 12. Denver Broncos - Tyson Jackson DE LSU 13. Washington Redskins - Robert Ayers DE Tennessee 14. New Orleans Saints - Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State 15. Houston Texans - Chris Wells RB Ohio State 16. San Diego Chargers - Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri 17. New York Jets - Percy Harvin WR Florida 18. Chicago Bears - Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland 19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Josh Freeman QB Penn State 20. Detroit Lions - Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma State 21. Philadelphia Eagles - Michael Oher OT Mississippi 22. Minnesota Vikings - Eben Britton OT Arizona 23. New England Patriots - Clay Matthews OLB USC 24. Atlanta Falcons - Brian Cushing OLB USC 25. Miami Dolphins - Vontae Davis CB Illinois 26. Baltimore Ravens - Rey Maualuga ILB USC 27. Indianapolis Colts - Peria Jerry DT Mississippi 28. Philadelphia Eagles - Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia 29. New York Giants - Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina 30. Tennessee Titans - Kenny Britt WR Rutgers 31. Arizona Cardinals - Donald Brown RB Connecticut 32. Pittsburgh Steelers - Darius Butler CB Connecticut
that mock draft is ridiculous. He has 6 WR's in the first round, Mark Sanchez in the top 10 and the Texans taking Beanie Wells. No way any of that happens.
to me, that signifies a definite need to trade down unless someone falls unexpectedly. Mocks can't assume that.. but they also don't want us drafting someone wayyy higher than they should go.
Good thread... I don't see how we let all (or any for that matter) of these guys slip by us, while taking Beanie Wells: Oher Matthews Cushing Davis Jerry Malauaga
Agreed. the mock doesn't allow for trades down, and I am pretty sure McShay doesn't really expect Houston to take Wells. The problem is there really isn't anyone else slotted to go near that pick that they would take either. I think you are right on that if that type of scenario happens the Texans will be looking to deal down.
If the picks before us went down like McShay thinks, then everyone Eddie listed would be taken before Wells. Our 1st rounder is going to be a starter, no question. We have way too many holes to draft a backup in the 1st.
I just heard Kiper on ESPN say that in order to possibly take Marc Sanchez, the Bucs would have to move up past the Texans and possibly the Jags. What is this guy smoking? I think his hair is giving off fumes.... Edit: I think Sanchez would be a nice fit in San Fran. I could see him going to the Niners at pick number 10. My ideal first round would be to trade down about a few spots and pick up one of the following, depending on who's available: Peria Jerry Vontae Davis Malcolm Jenkins(very unlikely he;d be available) Cushing Matthews Malauaga Oher Basically, the people I listed above. Hopefully, by going down those few spots, we can get an extra third.
17. New York Jets - Percy Harvin WR Florida Has Harvin's star fallen this much? Texans will no doubt be drafting defense in the first two rounds.
I think this guy was on the radio the other day. Someone from ESPN was on at least that had us taking Wells in the first. He said the mock where he had us taking Wells was kind of a shakeup draft for him, and he was looking at this one as a possibility if things didn't go as expected. Basically I got the impression he was just penciling whoever where ever.
Harvin wasn't supposed to be a first round pick because he doesn't have a true position. Now he's a virtual lock to be the likely 3rd WR taken.
We need a bruiser running back but no way in the first round this team isnt deep enough to take backupsthat early. Also I thought Crabtree was dropping. This mock draft sucks
I wasn't saying not to take the players Eddie, but that McShay's mock doesn't factor in teams trading down. I don't think he expects Houston to take Wells, but rather he'd expect they would trade down and take a player of need, which is what the person I quoted was saying and also what Eddie says below mine. The guys he lists are guys going in the 20's. If the draft goes according to this or some of the other mocks I have seen the Texans would be reaching to take a need player at their spot. They should be able to trade back and get someone they can use. I think McShay just stuck Wells in there because he really didn't have a fit for him or a fit for the Texans.
15 is about right for Sanchez. Texans want to trade down. I don't see Sanchez falling past the 15 pick.
I quit looking at McShay's once he had us taking Sanchez at 15. I do think we could trade down little bit so someone else can take him there. I think we can do that and still grab Matthews around the 20th pick, but its dicey as his stock is rising. If we can do this and net an extra third or fourth rounder that would be great. I can really see it, especially seeing as a team like Tampa would love to get Sanchez. Here's hoping. Either way, Wells would be cool, but I highly doubt we're going defense with our pick even if we trade down.
That scenario is based on the Lions not drafting Stafford. Both Kiper and McShay still believe Detroit will draft Stafford. Here's their draft based on that: http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/insider/columns/story?id=3972427 Kiper has us drafting Brian Cushing and McShay has us drafting Robert Ayers.
From the last two games Harvin played, I was thinking that he had to be a top 5 lock. I guess the football scouts see it different. Go figure.
Here are some mock drafts from the so-called analysts at nfl.com: Charles Davis Charles has us drafting Vontae Davis. Jamie Dukes Jamie has us drafting Michael Johnson. Pat Kirwan Pat has us drafting Chris Wells. Steve Wyche Steve has us drafting Malcolm Jenkins.
There is no such thing as a draft expert. Their guess is as good as mine. I will be shocked if the Texans don't trade back and pick up an extra pick along with a linebacker in the first round assuming Jenkins is off the board at 15.
