Mo Williams available... Could he shore up our PG spot sufficiently?

MO is a selfish player that jacks up shots and plays soft defense.He cares about is his points.

 

Not for Mo Williams, IMO.

 

did you really just compare running an nba organization to running your fantasy league team? wow. just...wow.

 

If we took on that contract we would need to get rid of Rafer's or Bjax contract.

I would rather it be Rafer....and use Bjax at the trade deadline....

DD

 

I'm on the fence with this one. I would've loved to have him two years ago when he didn't have that contract. He's an even better player now but we have to weigh the trade-offs. He does everything better than Rafer on offense (shooting, passing, comparable turnovers) but Rafer is heaps better on defense. Granted, no one on that Bucks team plays defense so it's very possible that he'll buy into our system defensively. He's quick enough to stay in front of his man and steals the ball quite well so he could be almost as effective as Rafer if we use him right. So he's a clear upgrade over Rafer on offense, downgrade on defense. The real kicker is his giant contract. But he IS young...

 

Most western conference PG's would destroy him. It's bad enough what they do to Rafer, Mo doesn't even try.

 

It is more like "No defense" than "No pass". Say No to Mo Williams.

 

Mo is BYC, so it would likely involve both in a trade involving 4 or so players from each team being moved.

Something like this would work:

Rafer Alston
Bobby Jackson
Shane Battier
Chuck Hayes

for

Mo Williams
Charlie Villanueva
Dan Gadzuric
Desmond Mason

A swap of first rounders would be nice there as well. I'm not saying I would do his deal, but that's the only way a deal involving Mo Williams gets done.

 

He 'd be a perfect PG for TMAC. get him.

 

I think Mo's BYC status expires on July 1, so the Rockets could potentially make a deal involving Mo Williams on draft night, but the deal would not be official until July 1. That would be an easy way to avoid the hassle of dealing with his BYC status.

 

I'd be worried that we'd be getting another Mike James.

 

You have to ask yourself what you're gaining from Mo Williams that Aaron Brooks couldn't already potentially provide. Both have the same strengths/weaknesses. The difference is Williams is proven, has about 20 more pounds of muscle and makes a ton more money. You have to ask yourself whether the latter is outweighed by the reward of such a move. I just don't see it. I'd rather go after Jason Terry.

 

I was iffy on a potential Williams deal initially, but I'm not all for it.

I just really like the idea of a guy named Les spending a lot of money to get Mo.

 

Mo is very expensive and is a confirmed chucker.

 

Oh, hell no. I remember Bullard saying that Mo Williams is probebly the most selfish pg in the leauge. I don't like him, I belive Rafer is better for this team.

We need a playmaker

 

I'm not all for Mo Williams, but for all the people talking about how he is a chucker.

Well, good...

We need some chuckers on this team. We have way too many people who would rather defer than take the shot.

And looking at his stats he seems to provide the high percentage shooter that we need anyways. If you chuck up shots and make over 45% of them as a guard then please shoot some more.

I think he is worth most of his contract and for someone like Bobby Jackson, he is definitely worth it. His defense might be in question, but glancing at a few games here and there he seems to do almost as well as Rafer. I would still want us to find a tall SG/SF somewhere so Les might have to spend some more money and maybe go over the cap a bit.

But he is not my first choice, I would prefer Mike Miller, Corey Maggette, Ron Artest, and Hedo but acquiring Mo Williams seems the most likely without doing the most damage to our team given this news article.

 

The only way I do this deal is if we know that there is no way we could use Jackson exp. contracts, Head, Brooks and picks to get a more significant piece ie....Maggette, Artest. Even then I would still be hesitant to make the deal because it would be too much money at the point guard position with us still needing a good wing player to start or backup T-Mac and Battier.

 

Agreed. I don't know why people think that what we hoped from Mike James was a bad thing.

We do know that Morey was willing to take $6m/year with 3 years left for Mike James with Rafer on board (in addition to spending on a draft pick and Steve Francis), though the cost (Juwan Howard), was simply an extra year. Mo Willilams at age 25, doesn't have the washout risk of Mike James at age 32.

I think some may underestimate Morey's willingness to spend on the PG position, from a resources position. On the other hand, after being burned by 2 of the moves last year, and only getting a handful of productive games out of the 3rd, he may be a bit gun shy.

 

These are the hotzones for both players for 2007-08 season

This is how I got it to show:
http://www.countthebasket.com/blog/2007/11/08/hacking-hotzones/





I think if he truly is available the Rockets gotta jump on it. He is probably the closest thing to a young Mike Bibby, better than T.J. Ford IMO. Much better than Rafer too, or at least hes more balanced AND more effiecient in his game. Last season Rafers assists total tallied at 392. Mo's assists at 419, so he is a very capable passer. Rafers shot attempts totalled at 924 vs Mo's 919.

While Rafer played 74 games vs Mo only 66, it seems he is a little shot happy but not unlike Tony Parker who had 1,043 FGA in 68 games. I wouldnt expect him to shoot anymore than Rafer does, but I sure would expect him to make more.And lets not forget Tracy just turned 29 and Yao is about to be 28 please lets surround them w/ quality players NOW while their window is still open and not worry about a contract 4 years from now.
I think the best scenario would to somehow keep Rafer to back up Mo, then send Brooks to the D-league for the entire year, but if the Bucks ask for Rafer in exchange I still would do it. The Rockets need to jump on this

 

Finally a voice of reason instead of all these yi jianlian fans who have biased perceptions about Mo just because Yi didn't get his "touches". We hear the same thing about TMac from the Yi and Yao only fans without any numbers to back up.