I never said he was supposed to say anything. The only thing I typed was what he was saying in the interview. You dont have to be a jackass
The point wasnt to be a jackass. Sorry, if it came out that way. Dont take it personally. What players say in these kind of interviews have to be taken with a grain of salt. Vin Baker's and Moochie Noris's history says it all.
I wish Vin were even a shadow of his former self. His former, former self. Then we could believe he might really contribute. But he's trade bait in the summer for a team looking to unload a long-term power forward contract. Moochie will be part of that same deal. I would hope that Mooch would be able to contribute to the team, if he could just pass rather than masturbate the basketball. I'll say this: ain't no way he could suck worse than Strickland. Good lawd awmighty.
Talk about delusional. Check out the take on the trade with the Knicks from the New York Times. February 26, 2005 Knicks Add New Parts Without Assembly Plan By DAVE CALDWELL REENBURGH, N.Y., Feb. 25 - Michael Sweetney says he is willing to play whenever and wherever he is told, which makes him perfect for the newest version of the Knicks. They seem to have a lot of parts of roughly the same size in the body shop. "I'll just keep doing what I've been doing when my name is called," Sweetney said Friday after practice. After two roster-jumbling trades at the N.B.A. trade deadline Thursday, the Knicks (22-33) are loaded with forwards. That did not make a difference to guard Stephon Marbury, who said the Knicks had become better. "It gives us some depth," Marbury said. Referring to the maneuvering by Isiah Thomas, the team president, Marbury said: "I think it moves us forward. I don't think Isiah would do anything to set us going backwards." Later, when asked if the Knicks' chemistry had been disrupted, Marbury said: "The thing that's important is making the playoffs. And that's it." Yes, the Knicks still think they can make the playoffs, even though they have not won two games in a row since Dec. 29. The Knicks entered Friday five games behind the Atlantic Division leader, the Boston Celtics. The Knicks still did not have enough players for practice Friday because their two newest players - Malik Rose and Maurice Taylor - arrived in New York on Friday morning and had physical examinations. Herb Williams, the interim coach, stood alone at midcourt at the end of practice, a basketball under his left arm, his right hand in his pocket. He watched four players shoot free throws at one end of the floor and five players shoot at the other. Rose and Taylor are expected to be available for the game Saturday at Madison Square Garden against the Indiana Pacers, though Williams had only a general idea of how much he would use them and where they would play. "It's the N.B.A.," Williams said. "There were tons of trades. A lot of teams are going through it." Rose, a 6-foot-7 forward, was obtained along with two first-round picks from the San Antonio Spurs for center Nazr Mohammed and guard Jamison Brewer. Williams said Rose was a better defender and rebounder than Taylor. "He works guys hard," Williams said of Rose. "He's a very physical and very active player." Taylor, a 6-9 forward, was obtained from Houston for guard Moochie Norris, forward Vin Baker and a second-round draft pick. Taylor has a better jump shot than Rose and is more likely, Williams said, to be a small forward than a power forward. Sweetney, who started at power forward in the Knicks' 113-101 victory Thursday over the Philadelphia 76ers, will probably continue to do so, with the former power forward, Kurt Thomas, remaining at center. "Kurt is the one guy I know can play center," Williams said. "Any time I can move a guy around, he's the guy I feel comfortable with." Kurt Thomas probably did not gain much clout with Isiah Thomas when he said Wednesday that they had practically no relationship and that Marbury was the only player he could think of who had a pipeline to Thomas's office. "He plays for the New York Knicks," Williams said of Kurt Thomas. "I don't think it's a tough sell. He's just a professional." But Williams reserved the right to change his mind about Sweetney. Rose or Taylor could end up replacing him as a starter. Williams seemed to be sure only that Jamal Crawford would slide over from shooting guard to give Marbury a breather. Or maybe Penny Hardaway could do that, Williams added. With a 6-9 starter at center and the rarely used Bruno Sundov their only player taller than 7 feet, the Knicks would seem to be more susceptible to being pounded by a formidable center like Shaquille O'Neal of the Miami Heat. "We've been doing that all year," a chuckling Williams said of using a lineup that has been several inches too small. Williams will need to pare the playbook until Rose and Taylor can catch up. He said he did not think that would be a problem for either player - most teams run versions of basic plays, he said. But the Knicks will not be catching opponents unprepared. On Wednesday, the day before the trading deadline, Williams said the Knicks would need time to adjust to any roster changes. The Knicks have barely had time to adjust to his coaching the team instead of Lenny Wilkens. "Whatever happens, happens," Sweetney said, shrugging his shoulders. Sweetney was asked if he had been told if he would start Saturday. He said he would be starting. After a pause, he added: "I guess. Who knows?" That seems to have become the team's motto. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/26/sports/basketball/26knicks.html? Taylor a small forward?? Yeah, sure. Whatever you say. Man, I feel sorry for the Knicks coaches. Thomas must be driving them nuts!
ROFL MoT at SF? You have got to be kidding me... I hope we'll get to play the Knicks when they use MoT to guard T-Mac, that should be nasty.
Maybe this was JVG's master plan all along. Tell Taylor to work on his 3pt shooting in training camp, knowing that Isiah would throw lesser contracts and a pick to acquire him as he would see him as a Antoine Walker-esqe SF.
Thanks - didn't catch the interviews. I hope VB backs up what he said, hopefully he is that big banger we are looking for that can complement Yao. I love Mooch in part because I remember how he welcomed Yao when he first came to this country. He is a good guy.
Thanks for the update! Ya know, Vin Baker is 6'11". And he has a LEGIT back to the basket game something Mo or any of our other PFs dont have. Who knows if he can help or not. But he has nice size and has some offensive skills. He probably isnt any faster than Mo but he is taller, bigger and that right there probably puts him ahead of Mo in terms of adding something different to the team. Maybe Baker could be a pleasant surprise for us. Give us some spot bench minutes with some low post scoring. You never know. As for Moochie. I remember in Yao's first year that Yao and moochie were pretty friendly. With the Rockets trading away basically the ENTIRE team since Yao's rookie year, Yao probably will enjoy the fact that Moochie is back, someone he really got along with.
LOL about that NY Times article about Taylor being more of a Small Forward! HA! I mean, Taylor is a sloth in terms of foot speed. Can you imagine him trying to guard Eastern Conference small forwards? Hysterical! Mo better have his ankles fused together for that assignment! On the other hand, Taylor probably isnt any worse defensively than Tim Thomas is at the SF position.
Well, I've read every last post in this thread, and anyone who reads even a decent part of it would realize that this is a good trade. I'm happy with both trades, they really help the Rockets out right now and down the line financially. That cap room will really help us out. I like all Mo-T, Moochie, and Cato, but I hope the Rockets don't go and sign another contract that handicaps them like those contracts did. I doubt that will happen, though, as JVG, whom I love, is the coach and signs different types of players then the Rudy T/CD era. Yes, I realize CD (who is doing a great job this year) is still the GM, but the personnel moves have been different from him acting with a coach of a different style. To the people who say it's a bad trade, you really have no basis for that as Mo-T wasn't gonna play for us again this season (barring injury to Howard) and any minutes Vin and Moochie play would be added/unexpected/extra benefit. I will miss Mo-T. It is apparent most of the people around here have forgotten how huge Mo-T was for us at times. Sometimes he'd be the only guy able to put the ball in the basket. He wasn't exactly the hardest working guy around, not at all, but he was a good guy with a good attitude I believe. On that note, EVERYONE PLEASE STOP HATING ON MOOCHIE! He's a good guy and he doesn't deserve the treatment he gets around here, YET! It's a new leaf now - when he starts to mess up bad on court, then you should complain. Until then, stop thinking about the past and give him a chance. You would want the same. Thursday was a good day for the Rockets. Great season by CD so far!
Why thank you, kind sir, and I compliment you on your signature. I wish I coulda seen that episode since some say it was the best Simpsons in years. Unfortunately, I had a big paper due the next day.
baker came into great shape in boston last year and was tearing it up in the early part of the season 10ppg around 8rpg if i remember right in limited minutes. anyone know what condition he is in now? i dont even remember when/how he got on new york and he hasnt played at all this year. I think he may come in and actually contribute to this team. This is the first time since seattle he has been on a team that can win it all, and even that is a stretch seattle hasnt really been the same since that kemp/baker trade. baker had 2 good seasons in seattle before hitting the bottle. i think the rockets would be smart to bring in lucas to be a support system for the guy. lucas can help him out, from reports i have heard he is sober now but in case if he ever needs someone to talk to that would understand having lucas there would be great. on a side note anyone know what numbers the new players will be wearing? I imagine mooch getting his #12 back, baker his normal #42 but i dont know what numbers james and Big Z wear. oh yeah and since gaines is gone Swift can have his #4 when he comes to Houston next year
We really used that Knick connection to our advantage.Thomas doesn't appear to have a clue.Not giving up the #1 WAS a big deal in my book,as I think we will probably ship it out eventually,in a deal for our 4...and the 3 #2's are always commodities to be traded also.This notion about the Rockets being too old seems silly to me.TMac and Yao are young,but our window is open NOW(and will be for many years).So,we must surround them with veterans who know their roles from here on in.As the compostion of the team changes,and the Rockets have more flexibilty under the cap,we'll get younger.Right now,the age of the team isn't something that should be factored into the equation.Deals like the ones made today will bring down the age and increase the quality.The pieces of the puzzle will fit and we will be DEEP.I submit that the Rockets will be much deeper than the Shaq/Kobe Laker teams. In addition,the Rox will be quite verasatile.By the time CD is done,we should field a team that can get up and down the court with the best of them,while being efficient in the halfcourt game...a team that can D up and fill it up. ...and I disagree about CD being a figurehead,He is a master wheeler dealer.Carrol might suck when it comes to the draft,but when it comes to evaluating established NBA talent,and engineering a trade beneficial to the Rockets,he has few peers. His skills as a negotiator are among the best in th biz IMO too. Yes players want to play here,but once it gets to that point CD closes the door with authority. GREAT JOB CD!
