Ha ha ha ha... it is always hilarious how the idiots ignore the facts in favor of their taste for idiocy. Dude. You don't know if I smoke pot or not. And you don't know if Mo's smoked since the ONE SINGLE time he was busted as a Rocket in December, 2001. Since that apparently makes him a permanent pothead, I guess you are one too. Why don't you stop smoking pot, you pothead? Oh right, you can't, cause you're a pothead. Stupid pothead. Your post makes as much sense as me complaining that Francis doesn't want to play with Yao. Read the Robertson and Feigen articles on page seven of this thread and then shut the hell up.
Funny how you niether denied smoking pot, or denied that Mo has just been caught again. How can you ignore the fact that year after year guys like Mo, and Sheed and Stoudamire get caught again and again and again.... They were supposed to be great players and be consistent all-stars. Instead they have occasional great games, probably on the days where they didn't smoke the previous night. Right, I am the pothead. I am obviously a champion of pot, seeing as how I am saying that if you do pot you are ruining your potential for great things.... Do you think I would give a wings and more wallpaper peeling crap about what the idiot chronicle writers think? I can barely bring myself to read the scores in that sports section without vomiting at the incompetence of that group of geniuses.
Just when we started to look pretty damn good...ARGGGHHhh!!! O well, perhaps this will give a hungry player off the bench time to shine...sorry, but I just heard about this. It sucks...
Ok, so I was not crazy last night, the Players Association agrees that a 10 game suspension does not seem to be an available punishment under the CBA. Like I posted before, a fourth time mary j smoker is in line for a five game suspension, only; HOWEVER, looking at it again today, I found the following loophole that may explain things: So, according this, if Taylor was considered "a player after entering the mar1juana program" he could theoretically be given TWO 5 game suspensions, resulting in the 10 game suspension that is being reported. Now, that's problematic in a legal sense because it seems to directly conflict with the penalties established by Section 9(c) ( that I posted back on page 2 or 3 or something). So if it is, in fact the ganja that Mo has been busted for, I can see the following scenario playing out; the NBA uses the provision I quoted above and decides to slap two 5 game suspensions on him; then the NBAPA gets understandably pissed and says, hold on a second, this does not compute with section 9(c); a fourth offense is a 5 gamer. That may be why the two side s are warring, so I suppose this would likely go to an arbitrator or even to a court eventually to figure out who is right That's the only sense I can make of it right now, at least.
Bush didn't deny using cocaine either. Does that mean he used it? Or, according to your logic, does that mean he's probably using it right now? Mo said in 2001 that he wouldn't violate the policy by smoking again. Whatever you think of the Chronicle writers they know a hell of a lot more than you do with your wishful hate fantasies. The union is contesting this ruling as a bum rap. It is wholly possible that Mo got busted for an anti-inflammatory, as Robertson suggested. But you don't want to think that's even possible. You just want to hate on Mo because he smoked in 2001. With fans like these... Keep talking, dude. You're making an ass of yourself.
Oh yeah regarding that silly article by Dale Robertson and Kenny Thomas, he along with every single other person who followed the rockets knew that KT was the most logical trade option to clear up the PF logjam and to get a decent SF; secondly, there was no chance we would have given him his 50 million dollar contract t hat he currently has after the season anyway, so Dale, chill out.
Sam, I agree with you about that aspect of the Robertson article. The hindsight around here's amazing. People pretend they weren't jazzed about EG or Cato or Mo when they signed. But Dale hardly needs to calm down as much as the ones who, not wanting to hear any possible explanation for the current situation, prefer to assume the worst. I did it too, when the news of the suspension first came out. Considering Mo'd been busted before, I assumed it was the same deal this time and it pissed me off (check page two or three if you don't believe me), but once I read the Chronicle articles I calmed down and decided to reserve judgment til we get the facts. Others should do the same.
On the one hand, I agree with you. Anyone remember Julio Lugo? Shipped out by the Astros for alleged wife beating and he was acquitted in trial. However, he has been caught several times. I believe that you have to screw up 3 times before your first punishment (heard it on 610). So this would be his 4th time to screw up! I was already impatient with the guy's game, now this happens. It really screws up the team.
I have no doubt Bush used Cocaine. I doubt he uses it now, I have no reason to believe so. Just like I am sure at some point about 80% of the nation has tried pot, but do they do it now that they are trying to have productive lives - NO. I am not going to respond to your personal provocations - as I am not bothered by baseless claims. What I will say is that Mo deserves all the hating he is going to get for this latest little foray. He is being paid millions of dollars to dedicate his life to the Houston Rockets and help us win games. He has a responsibility and he is not meeting it. I don't know why you would want to defend him. I am a huge Rockets fan. I would back any Rocket until they **** on my team. These guys are making choices that demonstrate they don't give a damn about the Rockets. I should give a damn about them?
You also have no reason to believe Mo is still smoking. If he got busted for pot, why would the union use up one of only two times this season they can expedite a challenge? If I'm getting you wrong, let me know. What I see from your posts is that the Chronicle is suggesting this might be an innocent affair and you'd rather believe that Mo **** on the team, simply because he's smoked pot in the past. Since you've smoked in the past too, I'd say that makes you a hypocrite. And if you got busted on a drug test for eating a poppy seed bagel (which reads as opium on a test), I guess you'd think it was fine and dandy for everyone to assume you were a junkie and didn't deserve the benefit of the doubt, simply because you've smoked before.
p.s. When the news of the suspension came out, I was pissed off and I said so. I didn't defend Mo. When the news that there might be more to the story came out which suggested it might not be pot, I resolved to wait to hear the rest of the story. You didn't. You were having too much fun with your bashing to be hindered by the facts. Yeah, some fan.
Let me put it this way Batman, if Mo were to come out and flat out deny smoking pot in the last year... then maybe I would have a reason to believe him. But he isn't gonna do that. The Union will use those up as they come along. They love being in the media combating the league. I don't know why you brought Bush into this, but I do understand why you brought me into it. I haven't smoked pot in well over a year, and I sure as hell ain't getting paid millions of dollars to make sure my body is in peak physical condition. I don't smoke pot because I want my mind to be clear and concentrated as I make important daily decisions impacting my career and life. It ain't highschool or college anymore. I am just tired of the excuses and the BS that comes out in support of players who have had chance after chance after chance. It isn't like you hear about Yao consistently failing his drug test. It is simply blind to ignore the fact that Mo does not take his responsibility serious. I have no doubt players like Cat and Steve have smoked before.... But I am also confident they don't during the year because they care about winning and performing at their highest level. For example, you don't hear about them failing drug tests consistently... It is really just sad and frustrating. And this year it is piling up. It is childlike and it is depressing that people given so much throw it away. Lord knows anyone who posts here would love to have the opportunity Mo has to play for the Rocks but he takes that opportunity and ****s on it.
Robertson's article was stupid. He criticizes the Rockets for trading Thomas as if it were based on talent. It mostly wasn't. They knew Thomas was good. They also knew that Taylor and Griffin were locked up for years to come and Thomas was a free agent they knew they wouldn't be able to pay for. Sure, they'd have been better off if they could have kept Thomas and traded Taylor -- lots of folks said so at the time -- but they knew they couldn't trade Taylor after his season-ending and career-threatening injury. So, what's there to complain about? The Rockets sent packing the only guy they could.
There are legal ramifications for doing so. It is common practice to 'no comment' on any issue that is an ongoing. That isn't logical. They use up an appeal on MoT just to make a scene...all for a guy that most Americans couldn't even identify in a police lineup w/ Carlos Montabon and mini-me? I haven't heard of any EXCUSES. What I hear is a handfull of people waiting to hear the facts rather than presuming guilt. Fact: He previously admitted to using pot and accepted punishment. Fact: A condition of punishment is that you must abide by certain rules or policy (such as have regular testing in the future) Fact: There are ways to have false-positives that are not indicative of somebody abusing drugs for recreational purposes. Fact: His latest suspension has been announced as a failure to abide by the drug 'policy' ... it has not been announced that he failed a drug test. I'm not making excuses. I'm waiting to hear the whole outcome before passing judgement.
Hang in there Mo. I know this is completely off-topic, but Doc Ellis pitched a no-hitter in 1971 while tripping on LSD. snopes Carry on.
Bad for Mo, Mo will be on the expansion list now next year....guarantee it.....that is what my friend Louis says and he is in the know...that and my mouse in my pocket [/B][/QUOTE] It won't matter if MoT is on the expansion list. Bobcats owner Bob Johnson is on record as saying he will only pick players that the the city of Charlotte can be proud of. This is in response to all the problems that Anthony Mason and Derrick Coleman caused while they were here. There is NO WAY they will pick up MoT in the draft.
Doc Ellis is a hero. But back to Mo. When you consider that it's fairly common for atheletes to use small, controlled amounts of steroids to rehab an injury such as Mo's in the fastest amount of time possible, and nothing has been stated publicly about mar1juana, I must retract my early criticism of Mo which was based solely on unfair (though plausible) leaps to conclusions. It seems odd that the union would appeal the case if it was a simple drug test failure for weed. I'm sure there are many requirements for the "treatment program" besides testing that Mo mave have unwittingly (meaning "no wits") violated, but let's see what happens before we start condemning the man for sitting around puffing a blunt, laughing at the NBA. Now, the concept of a "treatment program" for mar1juana is a completely different, even more rediculous situation altogether... I'll never understand why the NBA doesn't simply do a better job of COVERING UP such a harmless "problem" as this instead of wasting time and money on it. I mean, sure, silly Americans have been told repeatedly by the government that weed is evil, so naturally they frown upon it. But the NBA should really take a few lessons from politicians and simply deny that a problem even exists. It wouldn't even be a lie, technically, because there is no "problem."
Fact: He previously admitted to using pot and accepted punishment. ---------------------------------------- This is the fact that is hard to look past. Don't give me speeches on not jumping to conclusions. Don't be ridiculous. Just to test out your faith in Mo, how bout we do this. If this problem isn't marajuana related, then I will never post here again. And if it is then whoever would like to back Mo up on this one should never post here again. I would be amazed if there are any takers on that one. Now do you get it? Guilty or not, I am sick and tired of childish grown men making their teams pay for their mistakes. In case you don't realize it our own players are ruining our beloved Rockets and I for one am not going to defend their prepubescent behavior.
LSD is very different. Not only will it not show up in a standard drug test - it can actually make you fly - which several Rockets players could benefit from.
