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Mo Says It Looks More Likely He'll Be Back This Season

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Jeff, Dec 26, 2001.

  1. Timing

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    Aside from calling Mo a punk, I think DearRock is pretty accurate here. Nobody ever got a 5 game suspension for getting a speeding ticket and the supensions only get bigger from here on out so if Mo really does have a problem it's going to cause the team a lot of harm. Also, Mo has to have tested positive 3 times to be suspended, not once. As I recall, Mo had problems with his achilles last year as well and missed games because of it so his weight is most definitely an issue. So when Mo is pulling down 20/10 like Barkley then he can eat what he wants, but until then maybe he should mix in a salad every once in a while. If Mo worked on his body like Kenny Thomas, he might be an all-star one day.

    Perhaps Mo should treat the NBA like a business like he does when he's looking for his $48million payday. Instead of wearing his corner drug dealer sweatsuit with 25 times too large chain around his neck that probably embarrasses his own mother, maybe he should dress like the young millionaire businessman that he's being paid like. Same thing with all the young Rockets.
     
  2. Francis3

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    I can take both of them. :D
     
  3. Jeff

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    timing: I would never condone what he did. Even if I could care less if the guy smokes some if he wants, it does hurt the team and that part sucks.

    However, no one knows that Mo is out of shape any more than would happen as the result of not being able to exercise because of his injury. No one here has any proof whatsoever that Mo is overweight or that he has gained too much weight because he had the munchies.

    As for your comment about how he dressed, that was a freakin' expensive sweatshirt he was wearing. What would you say about Steve. He had on a turtleneck sweater that was not nearly as nice as Taylor's. Why should we even care what they hell they wear anyway?
     
  4. Francis3

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    I agree Mo comes kind of ghetto to the games but thats his gangster style he has. Its how he likes to dress.
     
  5. Timing

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    Yeah, I'm not a trainer so I don't know what shape he's in but looking at him he does look like he's carrying more weight and you just don't see the changes in his body (gaining strength, losing fat) like you can see with Kenny Thomas. The achilles though was a problem for Mo last year and I do believe his weight plays into that. That's just an observation so I guess everyone can make their own.

    What he was wearing just speaks to his professionalism IMHO. The night Stevie got arrested I remember saying to a friend about what Stevie was wearing on the bench, he looked like he was going to be an extra in a Tupac video. He was wearing a football jersey and a red bandana if I remember correctly. I think casual dress leads to casual/lax attitudes for some people, especially young people who are given a lot of latitude from a player's coach like Rudy. For anyone who works in an office environment, it's easy to notice the change in professionalism in some people when casual dress is allowed. I'd hoped Rice and Willis would have more of an influence in that regard.
     
  6. leebigez

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    Well , i don't think it takes a Rocket scientist to say he's out of shape just like last yr when he signed with the Rockets. He never got into shape and at the end of the yr that extra weight is what made his achilles hurt or strain. As much as I don't really care for him, I wouldn't call him a punk though,immature probably, but not a punk. Him coming back this season I don't think would help us any and as far as him fitting our system, any player with a half shot that wants to shoot jumpers fits that mold.

    Our system calls for us to get the ball across half court with 17sec left, hold up 1 hand set a bull**** pick and shoot a bull**** shot, thats our plan. Meanwhile the other team gets the ball across with 22 sec, sets a good pick and get layups or short jumpers all night.

    Taylor might be back later this season because a) he is ready to contribute and help a so called playoff push or b) he looks up and see Eddie Griffin has put 3 double doubles in 3 starts as opposed to his 5 in 69 games.
     
  7. DVauthrin

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    So dress is that big of a deal to you is it, timing, give me a break, Mo's dress was not unprofessional in any way, it was a nice sweater and slacks, the glasses maybe but who gives a crap, really. I feel like wearing what i want to wear does that mean i don't do the best i can at work. Please. It is winter and Mo's ensemble is no concern to me and shouldn't be to you, plus have you thought it may be too cold for a suit. As for the suspension, it was a mistake, are you perfect too? I'm sorry but athletes are people like everyone else and as humans we all make decisions we wish to regret later in life. THEY do not deserve to be held to a higher moral standard. No one does, we are all equal on that level.

    Basketball wise, Taylor is a 24-25 year old pf who has a sweet j and good post up and facing the basket skills and will complement eddie griffin very nicely as our forward tandem. Plus, I've watched KT and a big reason our offense has struggled is he doesn't bring the outside shot Mo has to the table.

    Bottom line, Mo Taylor is a good fit for our system and is young and will get better. Plus why don't we not judge a book by its cover, it can be quite helpful.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    I hope he comes back, at least to get that 5 game suspension over THIS year.

    DD
     
  9. Doctor Robert

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    I'm not sure about this, but probably the only type of exercise you can do after rupturing your achilles is swimming. I wouldn't be surprised if that were not an option for a while after the surgery since you have to extend your foot.

    I'm sure that you can't walk, run or ride a stationary bike (pressure on ball of foot and transfered through heel, stressing achilles).
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Well, swimming is the only sport in the world that excercises every muscle in your body.

    Tell Mo to get in the tub...bub !!!

    DaDakota
     
  11. leebigez

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    Most atheletes have large appettites anyway. When i played college ball, i was about 6'4 205lbs, once i finished and started eating real good and not hooping as much I got up to about 225, but still solid. Now that I very rarely plays and eat very well, plus I'm 30 now, I'm about 255lbs. I ate more then and couln't gain weight, now I eat less and gain quickly. I'm can't really say i blame him, but if my job gave me incentives, not the mentions millions of dollars to stay in shape, i think i could. Plus being 24-25 and still trying to establish himself i would think he would. Thats what makes the differnce between superstars like Kobe, Tracy, and others and the Mo Taylors avg players of the league. He should have went to Chris Carters fast track like Tracy and Vince did in the summers. He should never be that young and be out of shape.
     
  12. Timing

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    I didn't watch the game tonight but I have been watching what Mo's been wearing (it's hard to miss on the bench) so since when was a sweatsuit and oversized chain considered professional? That would be unprofessional for a waiter at Chilli's, much less the NBA. Too cold for a suit? Was he walking to work? You think that would fly at any business in town? Please... yeah boss, I just couldn't wear a suit to work today so I just wore my sweatshirt and jeans, too damn cold I tell ya. :rolleyes: And yes, what you wear to work can and often does have a bearing on the professionalism and productivity of workers. Anyone in management can surely relate some interesting stories regarding that issue.

    Nobody is asking Mo to be held to a higher moral standard unless you consider not testing positive for mar1juana three times and wearing a suit to work a "higher moral standard". If Mo were a regular person he would have been fired when he tested positive the first time so forgive me if I don't weep for irresponsible NBA millionaires.

    BTW Kenny's outside shot has nothing to do with why our offense is struggling. In fact I wouldn't doubt that if both players progress as they have up to now that Kenny Thomas will be a better player than Mo when all is said and done.
     
  13. DVauthrin

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    I'm sorry but i don't judge character by the clothes they wear the glasses were the bad part of his clothes but i didnt see anything wrong with a black sweater, heck i wouldn't wear a suit unless i had to.

    The point about the suspension was we all make mistakes, in our case its a speeding ticket or fighting in school, among other things. I don't condone what he did, but I'm a forgive/forget person.

    As for thomas, I like KT and I'm not saying its the only factor in our woes but it is evident to me that Mo is missed and will flourish with our guards ability to penetrate and dish. KT is improving rapidly but as of now for this rockets team Mo Taylor should be the starting pf when healthy while kt is a malik rose type off the bench who could play sf in time if griffin becomes a center, who knows.

    All I'm saying is the clothes argument is short sighted, I hate wearing suits unless it's a job requirement and unless there's a rule in the NBA mandating it, then i see no problem with how they choose to dress as long as they bring 110% effort on the floor every night.
     
  14. leebigez

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    Timing, I don't know what everyone else on this board see thats so great about Mo Taylor. From watching the game, Kenny hit the same shots Taylor did from 17 ft. Griffin is better already than both combined. He has 3 dbl-dbl's in 3 starts whill Kenny had 3 in 20+ starts this yr and Taylor had 5 in 69 games last yr. Not to mention he had 3 blks something Cato, our suppose to be shot blocker hasn't done. Taylor might come back, but by the time he do, Griffin will have the situation on lock.

    Somehow we need to find a way to get rid of Cato. He's horrible in the word. I wouldn't mind getting Othella back for Thomas and Cato. Somehow we must find someone to take Cato, he sux!
     
  15. DVauthrin

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    kt hit a few and is improving there, but no doubt mo taylor has more confidence and at this point a better stroke from 17-18 feet and i have watched thomas since my christmas break compared to Mo last yr

    leebigez both of taylor/kt and griffin will start so it's not a competition
     
  16. Francis3

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    Thomas has a jump shot when he shoots from far away. It looks like it will never go in. Mo Taylor is a true power forward, he is smooooooooooooooooth.
     
  17. RocketsPimp

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    Good job Jeff. Now go to the NBA forum and pass that sentiment onto Hayes.
     
  18. kidrock8

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    I guess that medicinal mar1juana works!
     
  19. leebigez

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    DV, anytime you play the same position it is a competition. If we had the #1 pick and Jason Williams was drafted, do you not think it would be a competition? When we signed Glen Rice, isn't that sending Walt a message. In the NBA, unless you're someone of the top stature, there is always competition for your spot. Thats why you have to keep improving and growing. They might try Griffin and Thomas together or Taylor/Griffin together and I hope one of those combinations work, but if Griffin is killing and Taylor or Thomas isn't doing a good job, what then? If the Rockets do see Griffin as a 3, and seeing the way he has performed so far, whats the point of still playing Rice. Personally, if we get the same production out of 1 player as we could out of 2, whats the point of platooning. Thomas doesn't deserve to lose his spot,but Griffin doesn't deserve the bench either. With the way Griffin is playing and Rice coming back, then what?
     
  20. DVauthrin

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    you play the best players leebigez, bottom line, and thus mo and griffin both will start, rice can play the 3, and Ill protect mo or griff at the 5 until rice retires or if glen sucks it may change-i never said players don't strive for improvement i said that it isn't a true competition in the sense that both will start as they will give us our best chance for success

    Both want to do well but my point is they are both in our top 5 players and thus will start regardless of position, plus it helps griffin is very flexible position wise

    eventually i see

    c-griffin/cato
    pf-mo/kt
    sf-torres/morris
    sg-mobley/mooch
    pg-francis/mooch/brown

    but with griffin a lot of scenarios work
     

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