MLK day question: Are black people becoming too entitled in America?

...and I've been around the block a few times, this isn't something I like to discuss but I saw this thread and thought I'd give my opinion.

 

Damn....your a year older than me? smh.

You said your not happy with the direction that black people are heading in...overall black people are heading in a very positive direction, you do understand that the vast majority are not in the ghetto struggling? Are you aware of the advancements the global African community as a whole has made? especially compared to when MLK was alive?

 

Nothing to debate, you're clearly a bigot who understands nothing about civil rights legislation, housing and workplace bias or college admissions.

 

I'm older than that, and have said here before that I saw "White Only" signs outside the local public swimming pool in my neighborhood park, and rode on buses largely empty in the front, with the back crowded with Black Houstonians, but you wouldn't care about that bit of Houston's history, would you. You are too busy being a bigot and displaying just what a fool you are to everyone here at ClutchFans. You also accused me of being racist. I'd like to see a link proving that, kid. I am also still waiting to see a link to your opening post. As I've already told you, junior, it is an ironclad rule Clutch has for the BBS that you must provide a link to what you are quoting. You seem oblivious to that rule, as you are oblivious to just how bigoted you are, and just what a low level of education you possess. But hey, I'm a fair man. I'll give you one more shot at providing that link, and if I don't see it in half an hour, I'm reporting it. That would be 5:30 pm, Central Standard Time. That's assuming you haven't been reported already for that error on your part, unintentional, I'm sure.

 

I blame Jacoby Jones for this thread.

 

My my, such anger, but you are incorrect sir, because we did not have equality before, there were restrictions on African Americans which are not there any longer.

A meritocracy is the only way to let these things work themselves out.

DD

 

The one half-point that I will concede on blacks' responsibility for our own poverty and diminished status is our dismal academic achievement. I think part of that, however, is just an extra motivation on the part of non-whites to simply not be out-performed by blacks. I think being in a neighborhood, campus or classroom with lots of blacks is a signal to most non-blacks that they're slacking off, and so they simply motivate themselves to study harder. On a macro-level that's going to raise the bar for satisfactory performance; which then defines what future academic and professional opportunities one gets down the road. Mix in the centuries-long Western social/behavioral model of whites as leaders and blacks as the underclass, which only recently has translated into higher priorities on academic achievement, and you almost guarantee racially-based class disparity long-term.

That having been said, the resources and course-of-action for academic and then professional success are more fully obvious, available and accessible now than they have been in our society's history; so individuals who actually want to succeed have no excuse not to. Blacks also have to realize early on that they just can't socialize or have as much fun as whites, because unlike whites there just aren't enough wealthy or successful people in their network to net any professional or material gain.

 

Also to your credit, Deckard, you seem to do a pretty good job of avoiding most racial threads.

 

Looks like he struck a nerve. Truth hurts?

 

We don't live in a meritocracy. Industries are beginning to be that way, but nepotism and race still play a huge role.

Public schools in minority neighborhoods or working class neighborhoods lag far behind rich neighborhood public schools for instance.

I am not a supporter of affirmative action, but I do think that it needs to be replaced with something that gives people of less privileged background a fairer shot. One shouldn't be penalized because they were not smart enough to be born to rich parents.


I think it's time for affirmative action to stand for anyone who is poor or underprivileged...meaning poor whites should be included and rich minorities should be excluded.

 

This is what happens when one walks in on their mom getting gang banged by 34 black men. They turn into the op. To the op, it is ok. She enjoyed it.

 

I agree.

As it stands, poor people are faced with such massive obstacles (the sorts of things that middle-class folks have no idea bout) that a poor person who reaches middle class worked harder and smarter than any middle class person who reached the upper middle class.

If this was a genuine meritocracy, there'd be more poor people in the middle class than middle-class people in the middle class.

 

I agree, but let nepotism play a role, the guys that hire the best people regardless of relationships will have a more solid foundation and company and eventually put those poeple out of business.

I think Affirmative action is terrible it enables people rather than empowers them.

DD

 

Might as well have went "You mad bro? lol". What truth are you referring to?

 

In a small town full of white but wealthy racists, and a small population of poor black people, do you think the free market will result in equal rights and opportunities for the minority?

 

I say until we give Black communities the same benefit in the society to outweigh the harm that slavery, Jim Crow and War on Drugs did for the same amount of time that they've been disenfranchised, I don't think we'll know how African Americans can do with an "equal" opportunity.

 

Yes, eventually. But the larger point is that neither town, nor racists, nor poor black folx, nor the economy for which they all labor exist in a vacuum. Free movement of people, ideas, and capital will ultimately out.

That said, let me also say, however many (inartfully) raised points by the OP might merit discussion, i find raising them on this day...distasteful. I'd rather focus on the life of a great american, and leave the (contemporary) politics for another day.

That goes for you too, valerie jarrett.

 

I see, so the reason for that fresh off the boat Asian kid having a higher SAT score is because he's actually racist and only studies harder to make sure he doesn't get left behind with his black neighbors. Make sense.

 

Quoted for truth...

 

Let it not be forgotten that 600k white american men died in the fight to end slavery.