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[MLE] Should Morey settle down with Wafer or experiment with other guys first?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Jun 11, 2009.

  1. pugsly8422

    pugsly8422 Member

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    I think Moon and Parker are both Morey type players. They are undervalued for what they bring, which is a solid game across the board. If I remember correctly both are (if not, they're very close) 1 steal, 1 block, 1 3ptm players. I feel Parker is on the same path Battier came down, but will never quite amount to what Battier is. He is a smart player that plays good defense, and can spot up and shoot the 3. Moon has room to grow and can definitely turn into something special. He may not put up 20 ppg, but like Parker, I think he can contribute across the board. If we could get both of these players using the MLE, I would be estatic!

    Pugs
     
  2. JoeBarelyCares

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    It depends on whether he can trade TMac this summer for a starting SG (plus extras), or whether he hangs on to TMac until at least February and needs to sign Wafer as a stop-gap. There are good arguments for both scenerios.
     
  3. smuduffy

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    Not sure where I saw this, but I'm pretty sure that Les is flexible this year on the Luxury tax, as long as it gets him a team he thinks he can win with. He's making tons of money from Yao and has increased his franchise worth to #6.
    I like Wafer, but he disappeared in the playoffs and he still has a lot to work on to give him a big contract. Morey won't overspend on Wafer. Plus, once we got the driving games of Brooks/Lowry in effect, the need for a driver was slightly reduced. I think we mainly need a wing that can get the ball to Yao and shoot the three.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Wafer is probably waiting to see what happens with Tmac and Ron....he won't sign here if both are back, he wants to play.

    I don't blame him either.

    DD
     
  5. Hippieloser

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    Are you kidding? Von Wafer is going to sign with anyone willing to give him a job.
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Guys who score 10ppg and can hit the 3 as well as get to the rim do not fall from trees.

    His athleticism is what makes him special......and he works VERY hard...

    He will have plenty of teams willing to sign him now.....

    He is no scrub.

    DD
     
  7. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    as many have stated, it all depends on a tmac trade.

    for argument sake, if tmac is traded for 2 wing players then the chances of re-signing ron and von are weak. in that case the rockets may focus their attention on gortat or birdman.

    if tmac is traded for a perimeter player and a center, ron probably will be re-signed. then the rockets will focus on either signing wafer to a fair contract, or finding a suitable replacement in the FA pool.
     
  8. pmac

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    I'm surprised at people comparing Wafer to a guy like Flip Murray. They are both just scorers but Wafer was about as perfect as you could get in that role for our team. He was lights out from three point range and aggressively took it to the rim when there were openings. If he can continue shooting 45% with a 39% 3pt% then he's worth quite a bit of money. Not full mid-level but I think he's worth a contract similar to the one C.J. Miles got last season, maybe a little less than that....and I'd rather have him on my team than any of the scorers being discussed in other threads that make 10M+.
     
  9. Hippieloser

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    Sure... if he accepts a pittance. He hasn't proven nearly as much in a single season as you think. To most NBA teams, he's still the guy with the r****ded haircut who's been cut by half the league already. Oh, and he likes to talk back to his coach. He's going to have to fight for playing time no matter where he goes. I like Wafer too, but his most attractive attribute is that he's cheap. If by some act of God or something he starts commanding real money this offseason, I'd prefer Morey pilfer the scrap heap once again.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Teams are always looking for guys that can play in the NBA and be efficient, Wafer shot 44% and 40% from 3pt land, has elite athleticism and a competitive fire to boot.

    Teams won't give two shakes for the playoff deal, they will mark it down as a small rift between coach and player, happens all the time.

    Wafer will be sought after, maybe not on the elite side, but by teams looking to get a first round talent for about 2.5-3 million a year.

    He is only going to get better, let's hope it is here.

    DD
     
  11. Rashmon

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    There is a reason why he has bounced from team to team.

    I like Wafer's skill set, but fear that he is one hissy fit away from a major meltdown.

    We have seen glimpses of it in his tenure with us. Even during the playoffs.

    Just don't overspend on him.
     
  12. Hippieloser

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    I honestly think this remains to be seen. I'm not sure teams are going to be lining up to pay Wafer $3 million until he proves he isn't a one-year wonder. He had the perfect role for his talents in Houston this year and did a great job, but so far that's all he's got on his resume: a good season. I don't see any team valuing him as highly as Houston, and I think Wafer ultimately will want to sign with the team where he has already carved out a role rather than start all over again.
     
  13. tcadriel

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    Wafer showed alot of skills this year and went above and beyond expectations. I really like the guy, but we should also explore all options. I don't believe he'll get the kind of $$$ he thinks he might get and I'd rather not over pay the guy or give him to long of a contract. He''s good but also showed a bit of a attitude and some deficiencies in defense.

    I think he'd go anywhere the gave him the $$$ and a starting job. But I do hope we keep him around.
     
  14. RedRowdy111

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    I tend to agree with Pugs. We need more depth at the 2-3.
     
  15. PauloRockets

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    MLE

    2.5 m Wafer
    3 mi backup Yao - Zaza Pachulia, Aaron Gray, Nesterovic, Wilcox...

    :)
     
  16. bilaal14

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    i would love a shawn marion for the mle! :D
     
  17. Xsatyr

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    Yeah I don't think Morey swings that way! ;)
    He is a numbers guy, less chance of catching a disease.

    I kid I kid
     
  18. TMac4Life#1

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    Beautiful. Agree with everything you said. You said it best when you said one year wonder and thats all. I really don't understand why this board is sooooo crazy about him. :(
     
  19. Carl Herrera

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    Well, Morey might want to try the Rudy Gay thing or he could be (Andrew or Will) Bynum-curious.


    Will Bynum, by the way, is a nice little guard, but not really an upgrade over what the Rockets already have. I guess if one of our PGs gets traded, I'd be Will-Bynum-curious.
     
  20. mdrowe00

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    You're not serious about that, are you, TMac4Life#1?

    I mean, I'm not completely sold either, but Von Wafer's loved so much here...
    ...because we had three years of Luther Head.

    And, for the record, I think what you do with Von Wafer, if he stays around, is give him more minutes. Preferably Shane Battier's.

    If Wafer works hard on other things, like decision-making with the ball and defense, he's something the Rockets have needed forever and couldn't find by begging, borrowing or even stealing.

    A good player. And one who has the potential to get better.

    Personally, I've always liked more than a few nuts in my fruit salad...
     
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