1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

MLB Playoffs

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Hayesfan, Oct 5, 2010.

  1. Rockets Pride

    Rockets Pride Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2010
    Messages:
    3,674
    Likes Received:
    443
    big difference.

    you arm gets more sore during an actual game. dunno why, but it's true.

    if this was the case. all pitchers would throw an inning during regular games.
     
  2. BrooksBall

    BrooksBall Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2007
    Messages:
    20,568
    Likes Received:
    256
    Well, this isn't a regular game.
     
  3. RocketMania1991

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    2,996
    Likes Received:
    124
    And Charlie Manuel loses the game for the Phillies.

    What a dumb move.
     
  4. WhoMikeJames

    WhoMikeJames Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2005
    Messages:
    12,691
    Likes Received:
    306
    Damn. Poor Oswalt.
     
  5. rhino17

    rhino17 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2006
    Messages:
    18,023
    Likes Received:
    4,428
    I don't watch a lot of baseball, but I remember a lot of time it took Roy a while to get into the game. I don't understand why he was put in for this situation.
     
  6. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    47,490
    Likes Received:
    19,594
    LOL OZWALT.

    Karma.

    GO GIANTS.
     
  7. RocketMania1991

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    2,996
    Likes Received:
    124
    There is not one logical reason for making that move what so ever.

    When you are at risk of going down a near insurmountable 3-1 you don't save your best pitcher in the bullpen for a moment that might not happen. You play for the win now moment.
     
  8. Baqui99

    Baqui99 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2000
    Messages:
    11,495
    Likes Received:
    1,231
    Viva Gigantes de San Francisco!
     
    1 person likes this.
  9. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,132

    That's what he did. Oswalt is better than Lidge.
     
  10. rpr52121

    rpr52121 Sober Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2006
    Messages:
    7,780
    Likes Received:
    3,260
    Not in that situation I do not agree. Bottom of the 9th, hitters are coming in aggressive, gonna be swinging on first pitches and try to put a lot of things in play.

    Oswalt is very good pitcher, but he is much more a contact pitcher than punchout strikeout pitcher. His strikeouts are due to command and confusion, which you can work on starting in a game developing the the strike zone and using players being less aggressive to get 1st strikes and getting them in a whole.

    In this situation you want the strike out guy, the guy who will only allow the run if someone catches up to him with the HR. You do not pick the guy who is more likely to allow a rally from contact and a run to score via singles and a sac fly.
     
  11. RocketMania1991

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    2,996
    Likes Received:
    124
    Oswalt is a better starter yes. But you rarely see a starting pitcher come out of the bullpen for this exact reason.

    I just don't see why when you have your closing pitcher available you don't bring him in.

    The Giants didn't bring in Sanchez over Wilson because the scenario didn't call for it.

    It was only the 9th inning, not the 15th.
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    58,167
    Likes Received:
    48,333
    This is why Oswalt is a starter and not a closer. I love the guy but this was a tough situation to bring him in on two games rest. Plus if Halladay wins tomorrow Roy is going to have to go again on three days rest.
     
  13. TheDreams

    TheDreams Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2010
    Messages:
    1,231
    Likes Received:
    63
    This was such a desperation move. Maybe Lidge comes in and gives up the winning run anyways, but you got to go with Lidge who is going to more comfortable in this situation than Oswalt.
     
  14. Baqui99

    Baqui99 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2000
    Messages:
    11,495
    Likes Received:
    1,231
    Absolute pandemonium in SF right now.

    Watching the local news now, and Charlie Manuel is about to have an aneurysm. The old man is shaking at the podium at the post game press conference.
     
  15. csnerd84

    csnerd84 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2003
    Messages:
    703
    Likes Received:
    592
    Apparently, Oswalt told the pitching coach in 8th inning that he is available and they went with him. I don't follow baseball as closely as basketball but I had weird feeling feeling about brining in Oswalt at that point. I suppose with hindsight it is very easy to second guess this move.
     
  16. Giant9erRocket

    Giant9erRocket Hakeem Olajuwon Status

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2001
    Messages:
    1,511
    Likes Received:
    870
    Now the stage is set...

    Lincecum vs Halladay round 2.
     
  17. TheDreams

    TheDreams Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2010
    Messages:
    1,231
    Likes Received:
    63
    I think both pitchers will be at their absolute best unlike game 1. You got to like the Giants right now, they been able to find a way to get the clutch hits.
     
  18. RocketMania1991

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    2,996
    Likes Received:
    124
    So both the Phillies and Yankees are at the brink.

    If there were any two teams that could possibly come back from these deficits I think it would have to be them.
     
  19. TheDreams

    TheDreams Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2010
    Messages:
    1,231
    Likes Received:
    63
    Fox is praying that at least one of them will be able to come back and win the series.
     
  20. rockets934life

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    15,312
    Likes Received:
    249
    Oswalt coming in was a huge mistake, I can not remember him doing well coming out of the bullpen EVER and Lidge was ready to go, that should have been a no-brainer.

    Two things I hate that the Phillies did was walking the leadoff man after taking the lead in the 5th and not moving the runner over 2nd to 3rd with less then 2 outs, they paid dearly for both. Rollins maybe an MVP but he HAD to move Werth to 3rd with no one out, his out might be the nail in their coffin.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now