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MLB Kowtows to the Woke Mob

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SuraGotMadHops, Apr 6, 2021.

  1. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Contributing Member

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    Several players have supported it along with the player's union. MLB is risk averse by nature and there is talk that there was potential boycott.
    https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31183822/mlb-moving-all-star-game-atlanta-georgia-voting-law

    Further wouldn't pressure from corporate sponsors be a business decision?
    Yes, if it means that your talent will play in your All Star Game and your corporate sponsors will contribute to your coffers.

    Do you actually believe MLB is being run to get social messages across?
     
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  2. SuraGotMadHops

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    It's clearly hurting the people they are pretending to protect. It's a giant farce.
     
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    Protecting who?

    It sounds like you seriously believe the MLB's message. I hate to break it to you but corporate messaging for the most part is a farce when it comes to profitability. That you are arguing that their message should mean something strikes me as very naive.
     
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    Of course!
     
  7. SuraGotMadHops

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    So then you agree the entire relocation and the basis thereof is, well, stupid.
     
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    Well, this sure was an embarrassing thread for Sura. Attempts to discuss something then gets triggered and attacks everyone who has a different opinion. Yikes. Sounds like one of those people who complain about cancel culture and then boycott Delta/Coke for coming out against the GA laws.
     
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    "Rob Manfred’s All-Star Error":

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/rob-manfreds-all-star-error-11617726664?mod=hp_opin_pos_1

    quoted because of paywall:

    Rob Manfred’s All-Star Error
    The commissioner politicized baseball over a law he likely hadn’t examined.

    By Fay Vincent
    April 6, 2021 12:31 pm ET

    Major League Baseball decided last week to move the All-Star Game out of Atlanta after the Georgia Legislature passed changes to the state’s voting laws that many, including President Biden, called racist. Activists urged Commissioner Robert Manfred to punish Georgia. By rushing to do so without first protesting the substance of the law, Mr. Manfred made a serious mistake.

    The use of “muscle” or financial power to influence policy is an ancient tactic. The term “boycott” has its roots in 19th-century Ireland, where the nationalist politician Charles Stewart Parnell urged his followers not to deal with Charles Cunningham Boycott, a highly unpopular British land agent. A boycott is generally an act of desperation, and the original one was largely unsuccessful.

    Organizations like Major League Baseball have sometimes participated in public debates over policy. Moving directly to an economic sanction suggests that Mr. Manfred believed the Georgia law required drastic intervention. But consider what he didn’t do: He didn’t limit the number of home games the Atlanta Braves will play. He’d need the approval of the players’ union to do that, and Braves owner John Malone would surely resist. To move the site of the All-Star Game is one thing; to ignore union and ownership powers is quite another.

    The midsummer All-Star Game is an exhibition that benefits only the city where it’s played. It was reported Tuesday morning that Denver will be the new host. The players will get paid no matter where the game takes place. MLB will get the same television revenue. The only people hurt by Mr. Manfred’s decision will be Atlanta’s stadium workers and local vendors.

    The talk shows and editorial pages are full of questions. What is the basis for acting so forcefully against Georgia? If Georgia is racist, how can baseball talk of doing business with China? Mr. Manfred failed to spell out specific criticisms of Georgia’s voting law. Now he’s put himself in the awkward position of having to defend Colorado’s voting laws.

    During my time as commissioner, I learned that the American people view baseball as a public trust. They want the game to stand for the best and noblest of our national virtues. They see baseball as the repository of their dreams, even as they root for their favorite teams. They don’t want, and won’t accept, anything that separates them from the game’s history and leadership.

    Major League Baseball can’t become a weapon in the culture wars, a hostage for one political party or ideology. It can’t be only for the rich or the poor, nor can it only be for one race, as it was until 1947. Baseball must always stand above politics and its dark elements of corruption, greed and sordid selfishness. It can’t go wrong by standing for national greatness.

    The situation calls to mind the 2006 Duke lacrosse case, when many erred—like Mr. Manfred has here—by leaping to a conclusion based on assumptions rather than carefully considered facts. I’ve done the same thing, to my regret. Much rides on Mr. Manfred’s shoulders so he must be prudent. Perhaps he now sees how complicated these issues can become. I wish him well.

    Mr. Vincent was commissioner of baseball, 1989-92.



     
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    Why are y'all arguing with this idiot? It's simple capitalism. See liberals it worked for you

    MLB is concerned about it's imagine just like the NFL and the national anthem
     
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    When pgabs is calling you an idiot, you should reconsider your position...
     
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    First this is false.... and second the timing of all of this is at a minimum suspicious.... the Republicans are losing power in Georgia so they decided to restrict voting rights in an effort to keep the state.
     
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    So the epiphany I'm having is that actually "Conservatives" are really just mad that liberals don't just spend their money mindlessly on garbage companies, and can't be controlled consumers.

    Corporations want liberal dollars obviously. They want us to buy their sh$t. That's the central problem that the Right has that they are more pissed off about anything about.

    It's a harsh reminder to the right that the people who are liberal in this country aren't just unwashed art students in Portland who listen to Neutral Milk Hotel. The majority of the country doesn't think like they do, and are more relevant... and that pisses them off more than anything.
     
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    Georgia is not the only state implementing legislation with respect to protecting against potential voter fraud in the future. Isn't TX doing the same? And TX is already a red state.
     
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    Yeah.... why would Texas do that..... I am really trying to figure out the motivation... with a rapidly changing electorate and a closing gap in the polls.
     
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    DJT handily won in 2020, Cruz handily won before that.
     
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