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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SuraGotMadHops, Apr 6, 2021.

  1. SuraGotMadHops

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    So what, it deserves its own thread, especially on a forum that is sports related. Contribute something or STFU, instead of just insulting the OP.
     
  2. SuraGotMadHops

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    Registering to vote is somehow a baffling ordeal?? Anybody can do it, it's easy.
     
  3. NewRoxFan

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    OK, here is the best response to your dopey thread...

     
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  4. rocketsjudoka

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    I'm still amazed at how many who have defended private businesses right to make business decisions are now complaining about a private business making a business decision.
     
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    As someone who had to move in September of an election year myself... yes it is an ordeal in Texas, and it came down to the wire. We had to look hard at which voting location we were supposed to vote in. My wife had to vote in one county and I had to vote in our new county. Did we figure it out... yes. Would other people like my parents age who suck as doing anything online probably not figure it out in time to vote... I'm about 90% certain they would.
     
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  6. SuraGotMadHops

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    Well...there are smart decisions and dumb decisions. This is a dumb decision. Private companies have the right to do what they want, I also have the right to consider them idiotic when they make dumb ones.
     
  7. SuraGotMadHops

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    Whoa, sounds like a nightmare.....
     
  8. SuraGotMadHops

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    Stupid.
     
  9. bobrek

    bobrek Person, woman, man, camera, TV
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    Not sure where I said that. Apparently you are in favor of stricter voting laws because "1000 fraud convictions" are too many

    Therefore it follows that you must think there needs to be stricter DUI laws and gun laws, etc. because 1 death is too many.
     
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  10. dobro1229

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    It kind of was. Thank you for your sympathies.
     
  11. Reeko

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    OP got y’all again I see

    he tried some stupid sh*t like this just a few weeks ago and roped many of y’all in

    y’all are trying to reason with someone who believes the election was stolen and there was widespread fraud despite Trump’s lawyers being embarrassed in court time after time

    it’s like talking with a flat earther...pointless and not worth the time

    threads like this posted by people like OP shouldn’t even go past 1 page...same with Senator...same with dachode86...it’s such obvious bait
     
  12. bobrek

    bobrek Person, woman, man, camera, TV
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    Ahh.... the irony of "contribute something" coming from a non contributing member
     
  13. CCorn

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    I agree with @SuraGotMadHops . **** private businesses unless they agree with me! I’m the only person that matters!!!
     
  14. SuraGotMadHops

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    I have no problem with stricter DWI or gun laws. I know it's tempting to paint all GOPers with a broad brush, but I look at things on an issue by issue basis.
     
  15. SuraGotMadHops

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    But here you are...
     
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    You forgot to mention the fact that now Georgia Republicans in the legislature can override the results of ANY election that displeases them - particularly the ones where too many of those pesky black people turn out and vote. Stuff like that appears to simply infuriate the MAGA crowd and people like Sura (I hear it gives him the hops).
     
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  17. rocketsjudoka

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    So the MLB becoming concerned that some of their top talent wouldn't play in the game is a dumb business decision? Having an all star game with several All Stars boycotting it is a smart business decision?
     
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  18. SuraGotMadHops

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    I don't see where any individual players threatened to boycott, this was pressure from MLBs corporate sponsors.

    Is it a smart business decision to move the game from a predominantly black city to a predominantly white one? Way to get your message across morons.
     
  19. J.R.

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    Repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it.




    https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/03...opponents-claims-about-georgias-election-law/

    https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/31/georgia-voting-bill-absentee-voting-id-requirement-food-water/

    Myth: Voters Won’t Have Access To Water While They Wait In Line
    Fact: Voters Will Still Have Access To Water & Are Not Forbidden From Bringing Their Own Food Items


    “No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector,” the law reads.

    The law, however, still allows voters to have access to water, despite claims to the contrary.

    “This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer from distributing… or from 1828 making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in 1829 line to vote.”

    Myth: The Election Laws Facilitate “Voter Suppression”
    Fact: Voter ID Laws Are Found In More Than Half Of U.S. States


    Another provision Democrats are criticizing is the provision requiring voters show an ID to get an absentee ballot.

    Residents can receive a free ID Card from the state at any county registrar’s office with proper proof of residency and other documentation.

    Out of Georgia’s near 11 million population, approximately 200,000 Georgian’s lack a drivers license or state identification card, according to CNN. That is less than 2% of the state’s population. AJC reports 97% of registered Georgia voters have an official driver’s license or state ID.

    For the some 200,000 residents who don’t have identification, Georgia residents can receive a Georgia ID card which has no age restriction.

    Voters will be required to request and return an absentee ballot with an ID, be it either a driver’s license or state ID number. Voters can also verify their ballot with the last four digits of their social security number. Votes can be returned online through an online request portal so long as a voter has their driver’s license number or state ID number, according to Georgia Public Broadcasting.

    Voter identification laws are not uncommon and at least 35 states require voters to show or present some form of ID when voting, whether it be by mail or in person. Georgia already has voter ID laws in place for in person voting.

    Myth: The New Law “Ends Voting Hours Early”
    Fact: Voting Access Has Not Been Reduced


    The Washington Post gave Biden’s claims a whopping four Pinocchios.

    The new voting law still permits polling places to be open from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m., and as long as you are in line by 7 p.m. then you can still vote, the Post confirmed.

    Early voting access would be expanded for most counties and would add an additional mandatory Saturday, Georgia Public Broadcasting said. Counties can also have early voting open as early as 7 a.m. and as late as 7 p.m., according to Georgia Public Broadcasting.

    The Post surmises Biden may have erred because the old law said “voting shall be conducted during normal business hours,” according to the Post. The new version specifically says “beginning at 9:00 a.m. and ending at 5:00 p.m.”

    An election official said the formal change was made because some rural county election offices operated on a part-time basis rather than a standard 8-hour day, so the language just specified the hours, according to the report.


    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/editorials/why-all-the-lies-about-georgias-new-voting-law

    Georgia’s new voting reform law contains simple, commonsense measures, most of which — and this will shock you if your understanding of the law comes from CNN or President Joe Biden — will make it easier for people to vote. Some of its provisions rightly protect the voting process from the (very real) risk of fraud, a risk that grows as more votes are cast by mail.

    To understand how flimsy and unwarranted the accusations are and how misleading the media coverage has been, one need only look at how far from the facts their characterizations have been.

    Biden himself misled about the Georgia voting law during his first press conference, claiming that it forced polling places to close at 5 p.m., “so working people can’t cast their vote after their shift is over.” In fact, the law merely requires polling places during early voting to stay open until at least 5 p.m., giving them discretion to stay open until 7 p.m. This is an expansion of voting hours, not a contraction of them.

    Another provision that has somehow aroused all sorts of anger in the media is the one barring political campaigners from bribing voters with money, food, water, etc. within 150 feet of a polling place. This provision is already the law in many states, including New York. Liberals are not suddenly outraged by it. The outrage is entirely manufactured and disingenuous. Election workers and community volunteers will still be permitted to distribute food and water to voters in line.

    Fortunately, the law also contains provisions that will make these long, dehydrating lines less likely. It empowers state officials to intervene and make voting easier where bad local decisions, mostly by election boards in Democratic-dominated cities, have resulted in fewer polling stations, longer lines, and otherwise poor administration. This provision points directly back to the 2018 election, when Kemp, then Georgia’s secretary of state, was dishonestly blamed for decisions that had been taken by local Democratic election boards to reduce the number of polling stations. Next time, state officials (mostly Republicans) will actually have power to undo local Democrats’ decisions that reduced voter access, causing long lines.

    Finally, the law contains perfectly commonsense requirements that absentee voters provide appropriate proof of identity when requesting their ballots and request their ballot within a perfectly reasonable nine-week window — not the six-month period that was permitted in the 2020 election.
     
  20. J.R.

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    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/sorting-fact-from-fiction-in-georgia-voting-law-debate

    LIMITATIONS ON VOTING HOURS

    President Joe Biden claimed during his first press conference last week, and again in a statement the following day, that the law would force polling locations to close at 5 p.m. “so working people can’t cast their vote after their shift is over.”

    The law does not, however, cap voting hours at 5 p.m. It sets 5 p.m. as the earliest a polling place can close. In fact, the law gives polling places the discretion to remain open from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. during early voting, which could extend the amount of time people in some counties have to vote.

    Rather than restrict the amount of time people have to get to the polls, the law expands it during the early voting period. Every county is now required to offer Saturday voting and is given the option to allow Sunday voting.

    TAKING AWAY DROP BOXES

    Headlines about the law have warned that the Georgia state Legislature voted to remove many drop boxes from the streets, limiting the places where voters could drop off their ballots leading up to Election Day.

    In reality, the law authorizes the use of drop boxes for the first time. In 2020, Georgia temporarily allowed people to place their ballots in designated boxes on an emergency basis due to the pandemic. That authorization would have expired, removing the boxes altogether, if state lawmakers hadn’t included a provision to approve them in the new law.

    While there may be fewer boxes in the next election than there were in 2020, there would be none if Republican lawmakers didn’t write it into their bill.

    FOOD AND WATER

    One of the most controversial elements of the law involves whether voters can receive free food and water while they stand in line to cast their ballots. Democrats claim it’s now a crime to pass out drinks to voters at the polls.

    It is accurate that language in the bill made approaching voters to give them money, gifts, food, or water within 150 feet of a polling location a misdemeanor.

    But that part of the law was designed to crack down specifically on politically affiliated groups handing out free refreshments to voters in line while trying to influence their votes — a practice critics call “line warming.”

    The law closes what supporters say was a loophole in existing rules that have long banned soliciting votes too close to a polling location. Election workers, not political groups, can still set up food and water stations at the polls, so long as they remain unmanned.

    VOTER ID FOR ABSENTEE BALLOTS

    Any registered voter requesting an absentee ballot will, in any future election, need to write his or her driver’s license or state ID number on the application in order to receive a ballot.

    Voting rights advocates have long argued that any ID requirements associated with voting disproportionately affect people of color and low-income communities. Georgia, however, offers a free state ID that can be used to request ballots.

    And supporters of the law argue the shift toward matching absentee ballots with ID numbers, rather than signatures, would cut down on the kind of chaos witnessed during the 2020 election — when the process of signature matching slowed down the vote count and injected too much subjectivity into which ballots got thrown out.

    SHORTENING MAIL-IN VOTING

    After Georgia and several other states struggled with the unprecedented number of mail-in ballots that arrived in election offices past their legal deadlines, Georgia lawmakers included provisions in their bill to shorten the window of time for mail-in voting.

    This is one of the provisions critics have cited when describing the Georgia law as unduly restrictive. Supporters of the change argue this will help prevent ballots from getting thrown out by election administrators for arriving too late.

    The window for requesting a mail-in ballot will now open 11 weeks before Election Day — not 180 days before, as it did previously, according to Georgia Public Broadcasting.

    That window will now close two Fridays before Election Day instead of on the Friday before. If a voter hasn’t filled out and submitted an application for an absentee ballot by then, he or she will not receive one.

    EMPOWERING GOP-APPOINTED OFFICIALS

    Georgia counties traditionally had autonomy when it came to administering elections, but the new law potentially gives some of that power to the State Election Board.

    In addition to diluting the role of the Georgia secretary of state on the board — that position became a nonvoting member seat — the law allows the State Election Board to make changes in counties that have struggled with processing issues.

    “Counties with long-term problems of lines, problems with processing of absentee ballots, and other challenges in administration need accountability, but state officials are limited in what they are able to do to address those problems,” Republican state lawmakers wrote in the bill. “Ensuring there is a mechanism to address local election problems will promote voter confidence and meet the goal of uniformity."

    The State Election Board is technically nonpartisan, but the state Legislature appoints its chair, the state House appoints a member, and the state Senate appoints a member — and Republicans control both chambers. The last two chairs on the board are appointed one each by state Republicans and Democrats, effectively giving the GOP control of a board that has now been empowered to intervene in the way even Democratic counties handle elections.
     

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