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MLB- Fearless predictions

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by UTweezer, Mar 27, 2003.

  1. UTweezer

    UTweezer Contributing Member

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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/tom_verducci/news/2003/03/26/fearless_predictions/

    AL MVP: Nomar Garciaparra, Boston
    NL MVP: Albert Pujols, St. Louis
    AL Cy Young: Mark Mulder, Oakland
    NL Cy Young: Randy Johnson, Arizona
    AL Rookie of the Year: Hideki Matsui, New York
    NL Rookie of the Year: Jose Reyes, New York
    AL HR Leader: Alex Rodriguez, Texas
    NL HR Leader: Ken Griffey, Cincinnati
    AL Batting Title: Ichiro Suzuki, Seattle
    NL Batting Title: Albert Pujols, St. Louis
    AL Pitching Victories: Mark Mulder, Oakland
    NL Pitching Victories: Matt Morris, St. Louis
    AL Comeback Player of the Year : Juan Gonzalez, Texas
    NL Comeback Player of the Year: Richard Hidalgo, Houston
    AL Most Overrated Player: Rey Ordonez, Tampa Bay
    NL Most Overrated Player: Jason Kendall, Pittsburgh
    AL Most Underrated Player: Roy Halladay, Toronto
    NL Most Underrated Player: Bobby Abreu, Philadelphia
    AL Breakout Player: Eric Munson, Detroit
    NL Breakout Player: Mark Prior, Chicago
    AL Surprise Team: Toronto Blue Jays
    NL Surprise Team: Chicago Cubs
    AL Disappointing Team: Chicago White Sox
    NL Disappointing Team: Philadelphia Phillies
    AL Manager of the Year: Carlos Tosca, Toronto
    NL Manager of the Year: Dusty Baker, Chicago
    AL First Manager Fired: None
    NL First Manager Fired: Jeff Torborg, Florida
    AL Division Winners: New York, Minnesota, Oakland
    NL Division Winners: Atlanta, St. Louis, Arizona
    AL Wild Card: Boston
    NL Wild Card: Houston
    ALCS: Oakland over New York
    NLCS: Arizona over St. Louis
    World Series: Oakland over Arizona
     
  2. rrj_gamz

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    Pujols???Dalgi???

    I like Pujols, but NL MVP...I think not...

    As for Dalgi, I hope he has a great year...Only time will tell...

    Houston in the Wild Card, I can actually see that happening, but a Div. Title is what I'm expecting...
    Zona...I'm not sure they'll be there, or Oakland...

    Let the games begin...

    Go Astros...
     
  3. rezdawg

    rezdawg Contributing Member

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    Are you kidding me? He finished 2nd in MVP voting last year.

    Over his 2 years as a player, he has averaged:

    35.5 HR
    128.5 RBI
    .321 BA

    Whose to say he wont improve?

    He was already an MVP candidate. Any improvement could easily push him over the top.

    You act as if their prediction is way off.
     
  4. coma

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    NL MVP: Jeff Kent
     
  5. UTweezer

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    i hope he is right about Richard Hidalgo
     
  6. Puedlfor

    Puedlfor Contributing Member

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    Suggesting that Pujols was an MVP "candidate" suggests that there was someone other than Bonds in contention for the award.

    There was most definetly not.

    Betting against a player as good as Bonds, as well as he's hit the past two years, is a fool's wager, in my opinion.
     
  7. rezdawg

    rezdawg Contributing Member

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    So, would one be considered a fool for not picking the Yankees?
     
  8. Puedlfor

    Puedlfor Contributing Member

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    If the Yankees had won around 30-40 more games than everyone else the past two years, Blitzed through the postseason and had no appreciable decline - then it would be a silly wager to pick against them.

    But they did not.
     
  9. rezdawg

    rezdawg Contributing Member

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    Your scenario is absurd.

    Bonds is obviously the best player. However, he doesnt blow the competition away.

    Sosa had more HR and runs scored than Bonds while accumulating only 2 less RBI.

    There were 3 categories that Bonds dominated in: Batting average, slugging percentage and walks.
    Take a look at the other categories.
     
  10. Puedlfor

    Puedlfor Contributing Member

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    yes, Bonds did blow the competition away.

    It wasn't even close, and to say it is close - well I don't understand that.

    He got on base more than half the time he got to the plate in the past two years - pitchers were so scared of him they walked him with no one on base, so last year he got on base an obscene 58% of the time - yet he still managed to rip 46 homers.

    Yes, Sosa had three more homers.

    It took him 150 more at-bats to do it though.
     
  11. rezdawg

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    Your missing my point bud.

    The fact of the matter is that there is absolutely nothing wrong with predicting someone else to win the freakin award. Chill out.
     
  12. Puedlfor

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    Your point was that Pujols as an MVP candidate wasn't a bad choice, because he had been a candidate before.

    I merely pointed out, that if you're using the most common definition of candidate - he was not, because Bonds destroyed the competition, and no one other than Bonds was ever in contention for the award.

    Betting against a guy who has been so much better than the rest of the league seems to me, silly and a waste of print. The way Bonds is hitting, this is like betting someone other than Babe Ruth would be the best player in the AL in the early 20s - It's a good way to be very, very wrong.
     
  13. rezdawg

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    And Bond's steroid taking ass can tear a hamstring in an instant. At that point, what do you do? Still predict Bonds to win it?

    These predictions arent "fearless" for nothing.
     
  14. Puedlfor

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    Bond's has played in 140 + games in 7 of the last 8 years, he doesn't seem very injury-prone to me anyways.

    Besides making a prediction that is predicated on a player like Bonds, who gets plenty of rest and plays lots of games, getting injured seems pretty stupid to me. Just because you're "fearless" doesn't mean you have to be stupid.
     
  15. rezdawg

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    You obviously havent watched the guy play. He cant run. If he goes from a jog to a sprint, he pulls up because his hammy's give out.

    While we are talking sports, I take it you have all your money riding on the Lakers. After all, other than one series, they have blown by the competition for the last three playoff runs.
     
  16. Puedlfor

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    I know he can't run, he hasn't broken into a full sprint since like 1994 though.

    He's a big mashing slugger who hits a ton, scares the crap out of pitchers and gets plenty off off days to rest his body.


    And the Lakers haven't shown nearly the dominance that Bonds has, consistently, over the past two years. So that comparison isn't really good.
     
  17. rezdawg

    rezdawg Contributing Member

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    So am I correct in saying that Randy Johnson is a 100% certainty to win the Cy Young award?
     
  18. Puedlfor

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    Randy is almost as certain as Bonds to win the award.
     
  19. rezdawg

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    and the Braves will win the NL East.
     
  20. RunninRaven

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    Do understand the difference between a 100% certainty and something that is highly likely?
     

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