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[MLB] Another perfecto in the works

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by justtxyank, Jun 2, 2010.

  1. SuperBeeKay

    SuperBeeKay Member

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    Let's take away a perfect game because an umpire messed up. That's baseball according to you, right?
     
  2. TISNF

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    I don't quite fully understand why some individuals realistically think there can be a "just this once" policy. This is going to happen again and again and again. A new rule would have to be created just for this particular instance, where actions of statistical or historical importance could only be altered if the play had ended the game. That is the only thing unique about this one play, that it came after 8 2/3 innings.

    But how would this not open up discussion for nearly every debatable call in the future?
     
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  3. TISNF

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    Changing the game based on a judgment call is unprecedented. The best solution is acknowledging it as a 28-out perfect game alongside the other 20 perfect games in the record book, without altering the actions on the field.
     
  4. Shroopy2

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    MLB adjusts stats after the game all the time. Removing errors and passed balls/wild pitches, awarding hits, etc.

    Shoulda had the ol' backyard "do-over" on that play :eek:


    I don't get the argument of changing one play means you have to go back and changed a pivotal called 3rd strike in the 8th inning of a tied game in Game 4 of the 1983 NLCS. Just say no play is reviewable after __ date. And you can only make calls on a would-be third out. Or only calls in the 9th inning. Limit the scale of the reviews.

    Forget balls and strikes. In junior high track, you judge a winner by eyesight. Though its linear in what they do, in professional track and swimming they have cameras to get things right.

    If you protest a decision and its wrong, give the other team 2 extra balls on the strike count or have the runner advance a base or two. Lets get creative here. Flush tradition down the commode, nothing sacred
     
  5. RocketsPimp

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    What would everyone think if Selig deferred the option to change the call to Joyce? Assuming Joyce gave his support to correct the call, would you consider that an acceptable change given that it has no effect on the outcome of the game?

    I think I would have to get behind that.
     
  6. juicystream

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    It is, but then you open that can of worms. You start taking wins away from teams after the fact, it becomes a problem. This to me is no different then an official scorer getting to change his mind between error and hit after the game.
     
  7. Disciple of RP

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    I think the Umps should have the option to look at any replay except for balls/strikes. They should have the option to confer with one another and check it out...something that definitely would have happened in this case.
     
  8. J.R.

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    Not going to reverse it. Call will stand.
     
  9. juicystream

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  10. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Who's surprised?
     
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  12. MadMax

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    no, it wouldn't. commissioner has power to enter into any situation and say, "i'm doing this, but it's ridiculously unique...because the situation was historical, and the reversal of the call doesn't change the outcome of the game in the win/loss column."
     
  13. SwoLy-D

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    That's what SHE said. :eek:
     
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  14. juicystream

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    Never before has there been 3 perfect games in one season, and it just happened in less than a month. 134 years. Amazing. And the guy that lets a game end in a tie, can't correct this travesty. I figured Selig would take this route, but it was the wrong one.
     
  15. rrj_gamz

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    Dude got the shaft...totally sucks and is unfortunate...however, this is just another example of why replay should be used to help determine calls...it's in every sport...
     
  16. moestavern19

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    Selig would probably personally have liked the change it, but baseball is an archaic sport in a lot of ways. There are rich white men who make sure certain protocols are followed and it remains that way. Rich white men afraid of change? OH NOES!

    Anyway I think in this case he made the right call.

    Perhaps give team managers the NFL equivalent of a red challenge flag now, and let it be used at a maximum of twice per game.

    Nothing wrong with using technology to make sure a call is correct, as long as it is within the rules, this was a judgement call that was obviously wrong, but you have to upload the integrity of the game, even when it isn't popular and for once I applaud Selig for doing the right thing.
     
  17. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Not surprising that Selig screwed this one up too....didn't the guy give home field advantage to the winner of the all star game, what a douche !

    DD
     
  18. rezdawg

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    How is not reversing an obvious blown call, one in which history would have been made, maintaining the integrity of the game? If anything, it just shows how crappy baseball is compared to the other sports.
     
  19. Bandwagoner

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    It doesn't even bring you joy anymore. You just feel it is your job.

    thats what she said
     
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  20. Tfj4

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    Bud Selig is the worst commissioner in professional sports, except MAYBE David Stern but I'd still go with Selig
     

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