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[MLB] Another perfecto in the works

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by justtxyank, Jun 2, 2010.

  1. Mr. Brightside

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    Pfft, Andres Galaragga will always be the greatest Galaragga to ever play the majors.
     
  2. david_rocket

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    the ump should be suspended for a few games, what a bad call!
    and watching the play a lot, I think the umpire was watching the ball instead of the feet and the base, and when he turned his head and saw the feet the player was "safe" obviously im not defending him or anything, but that could be his excuse. ( a bad one btw)

    they should change the stats for this.
     
  3. Baseballa

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    Yeah, I was actually just thinking about this. If he would have thrown a perfect game, he would have been the 21st person to do so... not to mention the third this month!

    Now, he gets the distinction of being the ONLY person (as far as I know) to lost a perfect game on an umpire's false call.

    While anyone would obviously take the emotion and pride associated with a perfect game, something like this may make his name last longer in people's memories.
     
  4. Qball

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    I swear that ball was moving in his glove up to the very last moment. To me, one could raise the question whether he had full control of the ball when he stepped on the bag. It sure was close. However, I understand the ump missed the call thinking the runner beat the play. I'm just saying it was nowhere near a clean catch and the ball was moving in his glove up to the very last moment from watching it in slow mo. If the ball is moving around the glove when you step on the base, isn't the runner safe? However, it did look like at the very last moment...the ball stopped moving. But, it was very close. That was way more close than the who touched the base first.

    If ump would have come out and said he didn't have full control of the ball, then it would be more of a point. But, it was clear the ump looked over late and didn't seem to adjust to the play in time.

    It should have been more of a routine play than it turned out imo.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    Bud Selig should overturn that call and reinstate the perfect game.

    The fans would appreciate him for doing it.

    Better to do the right thing than the traditional one.

    DD
     
  7. MadMax

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    Galaragga is more impressive in how he's handled this than he was in throwing a perfect game. Pure grace from the moment the bad call was made.
     
  8. rezdawg

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    Agree with the comments made about Galaragga...listened to the post game interview and the kid just seems like a very good human being. Good for him.
     
  9. kaleidosky

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    and it makes me hurt even more for him. sounds like the kind of person who deserves things to go right
     
  10. right1

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    When I saw this last night, I wasn't paying too much attention and thought it must have surely happened in the 6th or 7th inning. I didn't realize there were 2 OUTS in the 9th!!! How AWFUL!!!!
     
  11. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    That is something that cannot be done. It would set a precedent and also bring into question why it wasn't done in other games. Also, as bad as that call was, it did not cost the Tigers a win which could ultimately be more important than a perfect game. I suspect there were other calls in games last night that were as bad or worse than that one. Should they be overturned as well? If not, why not? The Twins had a questionable call against them that cost them the game - should that one be overturned if the evidence is compelling?
     
  12. wallyj12

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    It doesn't matter even if you think the ball is still slightly moving in his glove...Joyce HAD to call him out. During a normal game where the circumstances were not monumental, yea it would be OK for that call to go either way (even though it still would have been a blown call) but think about the thought process of the ump right there...

    If I call him safe, then I give the irrelevant Cleveland Indians who are 19-32, dead last in there division, an extra runner to TRY and score 3 runs with 1 out to atleast tie the game despite the fact that they are 26th in the majors in scoring.

    If I call him out, then I just called the final out to a guys perfect game, one of the rarest feats in baseball. It would have ended up being the fastest pitched perfect game time wise, and the lowest amount of balls thrown in a perfect game.

    Of course Joyce probably didn't know all those extra stats I threw in there, but if a call can go either way why in the hell would he favor the freakin Indians who are on the verge of being on the wrong end of history?! Curt Schilling said it best, when he said the following quote that I feel is pretty accurate especially in the NBA...

     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I certainly hope that no umpire is ever thinking of the circumstances when they make a call. Obviously I want the umpire to make the correct call, but I don't want the thought running through his head that he will call a batter out on a 'bang-bang' play (not that this was necessarily a bang-bang play, but in general) if it means a perfect game.

    The umpires should always make the call they think is correct, regardless of the game situation.
     
  15. R0ckets03

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    I've never felt bad for a ref before in my life. This dude deserves all the credit in the world for owning up to his mistake. Everybody makes mistakes and the majority of the people are not honest enough to own up to it.

    I think he probably feels worse then Galaraga at this point. Selig should do everybody right and change the freakin call. I simply cannot comprehend the rationale of not doing so.

    Tigers would not complain.
    I don't think Indians would complain.
    Fans of baseball would definitely be happy.
     
  16. MadMax

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    feels kind of like an episode of Lost. :)
     
  17. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    The rationale is that you open the floodgates. The Twins might want a review of the last play from last night. The Nationals might want a review of Berkman's checked swing from Tuesday night. Why should they do it for one team and not another, especially if the other examples could cost a team a win?
     
  18. R0ckets03

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    Teams could want whatever they want. Its up to Selig's office to judge what deserves consideration. To stand by something done wrong out of fear of opening the floodgates if freakin stupid.
     
  19. moestavern19

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    You can't go back and alter events based on judgment calls. That is a whole new can of worms. Until there is a system put in place where a replay can overrule a call, I wouldn't want to see that happen.

    It would be a slap in the face to all professional sports. There have been plenty of terrible calls over the years, some of them with actual bearing on standings or even who wins a championship. It is part of the game.
     
  20. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    But if Selig does it in this case, he sets a precendent for all future 'game altering/historical' plays. He would HAVE to do it every single time it comes up in the future.

    They can use this as a springboard for further review situations, but I think it is a bad idea to reverse the call.
     

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