MJ: "I would never have called up Larry, Magic & say lets get together."

It kind of is when your from Ohio, on top of that fact that anybody in that Quicken Loans arena would give you a rimjob on anyday of the week.

 

McGrady quit in Toronto last season.....still in under his contract.

And...lets face it James did quit.

He's been quoted saying that his goal was to "Bring a championship to Cleveland" . He left before this happened. * That, by definition, is quitting.


*Nobody is saying that he didn't have a right to leave.....well very few people anyway.

 

How in the world does that define quitting?

His goal was to win a title while in Cleveland and he failed to do so. He tried to bring Cleveland a title it just didn't work out.

 

Playing under todays rules, Jordan's point average would be at least 5-10 points higher, in my opinion anyway . The removal of the hand checking rule made things so much easier for the offensive player and harder for the defensive player.

 

Unfair or not, MJ can always dangle this in front of Lebron and his supporters.

MJ really did have it good in Chicago with a GM in Krause who always wanted to be known as the GM who outsmarted his peers (hence the trade for Pippen in the 87 draft), and a coach in PJ that knew how to work the mind games to get the best out of his players.

It's unfair to Lebron, who didn't have the GM or coach as good as Krause or PJ, but that's life. It's a good thing Lebron isn't known as a trash talker because he wouldn't have much to say in a war of words with MJ, Larry, and Magic. And this is even conceding the notion that the Heat will win some titles, Lebron will still have to hear it that he had to leave Cleveland and join 2 other superstars (one of them being seen as on par with Lebron as far as talent/skills in DWade) to get his titles.

 

Lebron had enough help, compared to the 1991 Chicago team to this past years Cleveland team, there were 4 players on the Cavs team that averaged scoring double digit numbers, not to mention the role players scored more for the Cavs than the 1991 bulls role players.

Player Stats 1991 Bulls vs 2010 Cavs by ppg most to least:

Jordan 31.5 > Lebron 29.7
Pippen 17.8 > Jamison 15.8
Grant 12.8 < Williams 15.8
Cartwright 9.6 < O'neal 12.0
Armstrong 8.8 < Telfair 9.8

... and so on with rest of the bulls roster after pippen the ppg avg is in favor for the cavs (cavs had 18 players so we are comparing bulls only 12 on roster to the top 12 contributing players on cavs) numbers don't lie

End result to why Lebron couldn't do it in Cleveland and Jordan could in Chicago??

MICHAEL JORDAN > lebron james

 

The fact that you listed Sebastian Telfair in your argument when he didn't play in the playoffs pretty much proves you have not watched the Cavs play.

 

Season PPG thats what he averages look it up

 

He was traded to Cleveland in the middle of the season.

Sebastian Telfair was never in the Cleveland Cavs rotation.

 

"I hate being out there with those garbagemen. They don't get you the ball."

"He can't do anything with the ball. Don't give it to him."

"He was scared in there and panicking. He just lost it when Stockton scored."

"It's a hell of a lot easier to make Earl Monroe look good than it is Brad Sellers."

"You're an idiot. You've screwed up every play we ever ran. You're too stupid to even remember the plays. We ought to get rid of you."

"If I were a general manager, we'd be a better team."

 

He did fail to do so...but it wasn't like he wasn't a championship caliber player any more. He didn't get old....he chose to leave (which was his right obviously) Reggie Miller tried and failed to bring a title to Indiana, but he never quit pursuing that dream while he could play. The same can't be said about James.

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Definitions of the word quit:

To depart from or leave;
To give up or relinquish;
To abandon, put aside or forsake;
To cease or discontinue
To release from a burden or responsibility
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These definitions describe what James did *.

He did:

- give up on bringing a championship to Cleveland
- Abandon his pursuit of a championship in Cleveland
- Cease to pursue the dream of a Cleveland championship
- He did release himself from the responsibility of bringing Cleveland a championship.



* Once again for all the fanboys I'm not saying that that wasn't his right....it was. I'm simply saying what James did. He did the things I listed, does anybody disagree? These things are , by definition, quitting. James had the right to quit on his dream of bringing a championship to Cleveland and that is exactly what he did.......he QUIT on that dream. Point, Blank Period.

 

Yeah that's not exactly the definition of quitting.

 

ok take delonte west 8.8 = BJ Armstrong 8.8

comparing in order of their average ppg from MOST to LEAST for the season the cavs still had role playes that contributed more than the 1991 bulls

 

So the dictionary is wrong?


OMG.....we must re-write them!!!

What is the "real" definition of "quit/quitting" Shaud, since the people who make our dictionaries know nothing lol?

 

So I guess that means Jordan quit in 94 and 95?

 

His contract was up and he signed with a new team.

That is not the definition of quitting when talking sports.

Your original statement was he quit because he said his goal was to win a Championship in Cleveland but he failed to do so.

That is not quitting period.

By your logic of using the dictionary any quits when he gets released or traded.

Jordan quit in the middle of his career. Which he literally did because I think he was still under contract right?

 

lol @ everybody hating on lebron.

hopefully this will spur him to dominate even more and just blow away the competition everytime he steps on the court.

 

Yea, after winning 3 straight championships and went to go for a challenge in baseball, you could say he quite baseball, that makes more sense if anything

 

Jordan did quit playing basketball to play baseball.......but what does that have to do with anything I've talked about?


Let's just be honest. James said that his goal was to "bring a championship to Cleveland"

He left before this was accomplished. That is, by definition, quitting.


I'm not saying that it wasn't his right, I'm saying that its what he did. James isn't the first player to abandon the dream of a championship in a certain city, but that is exactly what he said.

Why do you dispute this, when it is obviously the case?

 

No by that guys logic he also quit basketball since he's going straight by the definition.

What does him winning 3 straight championships have to do with him quitting by that guys definition.