MJ: "I would never have called up Larry, Magic & say lets get together."

Barkley says it best.

LOL King is knocking on the door "Wade, please i want to play"

 

I have to quote Charles again....

Barkley says it best.

2 time MVP, has to join DWade's team to win.....

 

lebron will average a triple double at least once in the next 2-3 years.

people have to remember wade is 29 going on 30. he's going to start declining soon. bosh is at his peak and he's not better than lebron james.

i think when lebron retires, he'll have 7-8 MVPs on his resume. rings? i'll say at least 4-5.

but we'll see. like you said, it only matters if james continues to rack up MVPs and continue to be the best player in the L on BOTH ends.

 

wade's team has lost the first round the past 2 years. win what w/ wade's team?

 

i like how you take barkley's words out of context. he said "don't leave your team to play with OTHER PEOPLE."

but again, wade THE PLAYER says so himself. he's the one who's going to play with lebron and he has publicly admitted lebron's the most dominant player we've seen since MJ.

i'll take wade's words since he's going to play with lebron.

 

Is Kobe Bryant declining enough he can't win and be number 1 option on the team?

Dwade has at least another 3 years in his prime years. By than LBJ will be 29(according to you, its a decline).

Dwade isn't better LBJ, but the Alpha dog on this team is Dwade. Dwade didn't go to Cleveland.

Having better Stats does not equal better "LEADER". See T-mac as a prime example.........

 

What did both accomplish in the last 2 years.....

No championship right, because comparing when they lost in the playoffs is like saying "Who is second best"

Wade still has his 2006 championship. Last time i remember he lead his team to a championship with a normal roster.....you know something LBJ sure had a tough time doing despite winning 60+ games.....

 

Because LBJ is his tool, what else do you want him to say.

"Sorry guys LBJ can't carry his team, i had to convince him to join because that way we can win, plus i already won a champion in 2006 but since a 2 time MVP is willing to leave his team to join, why not...."

Dwade convinced LBJ to join, you think Dwade is going to say crap now? lol i find it funny how people think just because LBJ is the best player in the NBA, the other top 5 player in the league is going to actually stop trying to dominate games...............

LBJ ain't playing with scrubs anymore

 

normal roster? wade averaged 27ppg, 6rpg, 7apg that 05-06 season.
shaq put up 20, 9, and 2. shaq was all-nba 2nd team and he finished 2nd in MVP votes the previous year.

wade put up 28, 6, 6 in the playoffs. shaq put up 18 and 10.

now let's look at the cavs' discrepancies: (jamison only

lebron averages 14 MORE POINTS than the 2nd best scorer and 3 more assists than the next best passer

playoffs? lebron averages 14 more points, 2 more rebounds, 2 more assists than the next guy.

well, in playoffs, he was their leader in scoring, rebounding, assist, steals, blocks.

so no

 

tmac was not anywhere close as efficient as lebron james. lebron puts up much better stats than tmac, but at a much better efficiency rate. it's not even close.

secondly, kobe is still winning, but you can see he struggles in the playoffs in several games and requires his teammates to win games for him. fortunately, he has pau gasol to win some playoff games also.

thirdly, so alpha dog matters how? tim duncan isn't the alpha dog on the spurs (avery jonson and david robinson were the leaders on the first 2 championships) but he's their best player and he gets most of the credit.

if lebron plays better than wade on the court, who cares who the alpha dog is.

no, better stats don't mean leader. i never said that. lebron brings MORE than stats. he brings defensive intensity wade never has never brought. and he brings the individual greatness wade can't reach. that's something stats can't show.

when they start practicing and you see lebron dominating on both ends, that's when you see the other heat players follow and listen to.

lebron is better than wade on BOTH ends.

 

Go look at overall Team statistics....I bet you will find it matches much better vs individual player stats.


Essentially you are telling me this

LBJ can't finish teams off, while DWade can....

Funny its the same things i keep hearing about Dwade (he will be the closer)....I guess its true.

LBJ did it all, too bad its also his job to make his team mates better or at least excel in the playoffs.

I guess by your theory because LBJ did it all in Cleveland and he owns all 60+ wins, the heat will be 82-0 right, I mean Dwade has to win the other 22 games...

 

wade convinced LBJ to join eh? how do you know it wasn't lebron's or bosh's idea? miami was just fortunate (and thank riley for that) to have the cap space and flexibility to sign all 3.

cleveland and toronto couldn't do that. and chicago or NY can't afford all 3.

so no, another wrong point of yours.

sure, other top players won't stop trying to dominate games. but it's easy to know who the best player is over an 82 game season + playoffs. lebron has won 2 MVPs in landslide fashions -> best player.

 

so you're saying paul pierce > james b/c he won a finals MVP and he did finish off a lakers team (and outplayed kobe i might add 3 years ago)?

so if he joined boston, it would be pierce's team?

it's funny to see all this hate for lebron. and it's not even rational hate. seeing lebron demoted to a "sidekick" after winning 2 MVPs in landslide fashion is laughable. straight up laughable. how does that even make sense?

 

So much better he has 0 rings to his name....apparently the one area LBJ lacks is balls to win a series.

LBJ sure dominated the Magics last year and Celtics...so much that he was even accused of quitting.

Nobody ever accused Dwade quitting........

Face the music. LBJ is now the greatest Sidekick in the world. Such a dominate player who has to leave his team and join the 2nd-3rd best player in the league.....because he can't convince anybody else to join him in Cleveland or NY.........

 

so if your criteria for judging player is rings, well let's just stop here.

ray allen has more rings than lebron. nuff said.

and stop spewing myths. you don't even know what you're talking about in your last part.

 

O please do show me the evidence he said lets go Miami.....

Dwade played for 1 team and he is still there.....I have reason to believe he is the one who convinced LBJ to join.

O no, 2 time MVP.

You know who else won 2 MVP's.....Steve Nash and nobody freaking thought he was better than Kobe and I bet you Kobe would gladly trade 2 MVP for another ring..

LBJ can keep his 2 MVP's and have a tea party with Steve Nash.

 

The fact of the matter is... when LeBron finishes his career and you compare it to Kobe's career... Kobe will be on top. Rings won't be the main point either.

 

O please... Ray Allen isn't even top 15 player in this league

Dwade is Top 5 in this league and is in his prime with 1 ring.

You must think LBJ is far superior to the rest of the players in this league. If he was that superior he would win a championship with a 60+ win team. Instead fans have to continue to make excuses for him.

Why don't you just buy him a replica Ring for LBJ and initial it with Cleveland markings.

LBJ is the best player in the NBA, but he is not vastly superior to the top 5 players in this league.

In a championship game, I would take Kobe
In a 4th quarter regular game, I would take Dwade
If I needed a defensive stop, i would take Dwight Howard
If i needed someone who can hurt his elbow and cry, I would take LBJ.

 

man do you even follow the league? when nash won, it wasn't unanimous nor most of the public believed him to be the MVP (first year, a lot thought shaq should have won in his first year with the heat, 2nd year, most thougt kobe should have won).

when lebron won, nobody argued b/c he was the right choice.

evidence? they planned this 3 years ago when they played in the olympics. and jim gray said he brought up this idea to maverick carter, LEBRON'S MAIN GUY. and maverick carter instigated this whole process afterward. wade didn't do much. pat riley apprently knew of this and basically clear cap space to facilitate this. so no, wade didn't convince lebron or bosh.

bosh actually said he would only go wherever lebron goes, not wade.

read up before posting.

 

You got it all wrong, the LBJ fans are now comparing him to Magic Johnson.

Since Kobe and MJ are in the same category, LBJ have to find another great to compare too.