MJ: "I would never have called up Larry, Magic & say lets get together."

kobe on that cavs team wouldn't get 50 wins.

jordan you may have a point. he is the GOAT after all.

 

Chandler didn't even play for them. It was Theo that was the starter. Felton is gone, but it could very well be an Aaron Brooks type situation with DJ Augustin stepping into a starting role...

 

MJ is just getting cheap brownie points - he saw that people turned on Lebron and the Heat.

I think all the pressure is now on the Heat. If they don't dominate, then they are going to be a laughing stock.

 

I think he did miss significant time last year, Nazr Mohammed will take over the starting role for them. But I still think losing Felton will hurt more than people realize.

I don't think anyone is high on DJ except UT fans -- he had a terrible year last year. In fact, their newspaper list: "DJ Augustin or Shaun Livingston" as the starting PG.. that's how much confidence they have in DJ. I think that was part of the reason of the Calderon trade discussions, to bring in a more stable PG.

That said, they did re-sign Tyrus to be their starting PF (who they had halfway through last year). They certainly have some talent and a good coach, but they won 44 games last year and just lost their starting PG. I expect some regression -- how much remains to be seen I suppose.

Aaron Brooks? Come on.. weak comparison - have some respect for our own players! DJ was AWFUL last year.. downright terrible.

 

really?

you take kobe out of the lakers and lakers would still at least be damn respectable (they went 6-3 without him last year)

you take a KG out last year (and he was pretty darn a star before he went down with the injury) and the celts still went to the semis

you took jordan out and the bulls still went to the conference finals with pippen

you take shaq out and penny still got them to the playoffs

and so on... notice how all those teams have a capable 2nd player who more than likely can shoulder the load.

so it's NOT a hypothesis. it's a fact. lebron has had HISTORIC seasons for the cavs to accomplish what they did. what he did during the reg. season stats-wise blow every other player out of the water except for what wade did 2 years ago. OUT OF THE WATER.

 

Doc Rivers emerged from a joke to a premium coach in a couple of seasons.

Yes, M.Brown could have got it done too. There were 3 close games decided by final shots in 09 Magic series. Cavs won 1 out of 3. The result could be different if they made one more shot or had one more stop.

 

Kobe on that team would have won NBA championships.
Kobe's team had won every series they had HCA in playoff. He didn't choke like LeBron.

 

i'm talking about reg. season bro. the cavs with kobe would not get HCA bc kobe's not a better player during the reg. season (take the kobe last year and put it in the cavs and they'd be lucky to get 45-48 wins). it would be a repeat of the lakers sans gasol.

um... the lakers in 03-04 blew the finals and they had homecourt brother v. detroit.

 

And if Kobe plus Walton, Odom, Kwame, Smush, Cook could win 45 in west, he certainly would win 60 with this Cavs squad.

Who would make Cavs' bench besides Odom in that Lakers roster?

 

What's your point? The year Elliot played 39 games, they also picked up Dominique Wilkins who played 63 games, averaged 18 ppg, and had a similar stat line to Elliot.

Del Negro played 72 games and Avery played 76 games. I find it amusing that you find these missed games noteworthy enough to single them out.

Are you seriously bringing up Charles Smith? In the prior season, he only played 32 games. Going from 32 games to 19 games isnt really a big deal.

And yes, Chuck Person missed the season, but the Spurs brought in Maxwell and Alexander played more minutes.

 

The difference is Doc worked with the talent he had in the playoffs unlike Mike Brown.

Doc was on his way out of Boston when they had a bunch of youngsters coming up. That is not the case for Mike Brown.

 

For you to be such a Kobe fan you should know that they had homecourt against Detroit and they lost.

 

kobe has never won 60+ games without another all-star by his side. and you're assuming he can with that cavs roster?

you do know mo will was an all-star b/c he replaced a replacement's replacement right?

 

Kobe broke his finger in regular season, remembered? Before that he's topped MVP ranking. LeBron would call it a career if he broke a finger like Kobe did.

And I don't remembered people call 04 Lakers Kobe's team. All right, if you really insist. For the last decade, Lakers won 4 times without HCA, and lost 1 time with HCA (in which they lost Malone BTW). Cavs won 1 time without HCA and lost 2 times with HCA. Kobe still owns LeBron in that department.

 

[rquoter]TNT analyst Charles Barkley said James' decision may change his legacy.

"He'll never be Jordan," Barkley told 790 the Ticket in Miami earlier in the week. "This clearly takes him out of the conversation. He can win as much as he wants to.

"There would have been something honorable about staying in Cleveland and trying to win it as 'The Man' ... LeBron, if he would've in Cleveland, and if he could've got a championship there, it would have been over the top for his legacy, just one in Cleveland. No matter how many he wins in Miami, it clearly is Dwyane Wade's team."[/rquoter]
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5391478

 

Explain how lebron choked vs orlando? he did everything humanly possible to win that series

 

I STILL don't know how the hell he won that award.

 

so you're saying kobe's first 3 championships don't count then? that's different from all your earlier responses.

my response was to your post and i assumed you mean kobe's teams in general have never lost a lead when then had HCA, which is a false statement.

and that finger statement tells me i should stop responding to you. be at least somewhat unbiased if you're going to discuss this. lebron is has played more than 74 games in every season of his career. and you're going to think lebron is going to retire with an injured finger?

you do know kobe struggled for like months with that finger right? i'm sure lebron can use months in the reg. season to adjust also.

 

As much as i love Barkley and Reggie Miller, what kind of constructive critism could they possible offer in this situation, half of the reason lebron is so obsessed with getting a championship is so he wont end up like them.

If you work hard so that you dont end up like the bum you pass on the way to work, why should you care if the bum calls you lame for working?

 

does he not remember attempting to piggyback on hakeem and clyde?