2Pat gonna school T-Rob, D-Mo or whoever thrown at him at PF position. He gonna hit those jumpers like there is no tomorrow. Mark my words. 18pt & 6 rebs for 2Pat.
I think Smith will do OK. The key is to both keep track of Patterson to contest his J while still helping on penetrators. DMo and Robinson just don't have much of a clue as to what is happening right now.
I think coming playoff time, these two guys minutes will be greatly reduced. D-Mo is playing like a true rookie and T-Rob is as raw as it gets. Being a player who has no jumpers, T-Rob has equal difficulites finishing in the paint. His shot get blocked at an alarming rate for a ppl who can supposedly jump. Smith will play most of the minutes. The problem is altough he can somewhat bang inside, his basketball IQ is not there and he will have a lot of problems staying on the court because of foul trouble. Can Rox use T-Rob to swap back 2Pat? I an live with his 2-3 rebs per night as long as he give Rox 10-13pts per night and his 37% 3pt shooting.
I was being kind and picking the higher stat. King .424 Rockets .431 Not sure you'd call that kind of "rise" noteworthy and after a couple more 2/10 and 2/9 nights I don't know that you will still be able to say that.
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I ddin't call it noteworthy or anything, just a sign that he's been better here. Either way again, it's just his rookie season. We should be looking for improvement. Lets remember that Dirk shot horribly his rookie season, not that Robinson is going to be Dirk, it's just a example not to close the book on a guy because of his rookie season.
the thing about Robinson is that he just doesn't make basketball plays or basketball moves. it is quite troublesome.
I've been nothing but objective. It is people who thought the trade was "another Morey steal!" who are blinded by confirmation bias. Because Morey pulled off the Harden trade and SAC is struggling, people tends to think whichever side Morey takes is the smart side. Objectively speaking, Thomas Robinson isn't useful to an NBA team and Patrick Patterson is.
Everybody knows Patterson is better than Robinson, the reason this trade was a steal was because Patterson and Douglas are both free agents after next year and actually have to be resigned and paid, whereas Robinson is on the first year of his rookie contract and Garcia is expiring. After next year the Rockets can sign Patterson if they really want to.
If you were truly objective, you'd wait it out before trying to claim that it was a bad trade and ignoring the positives of the trade and the upside of the trade.
I can respect that take. Ill give t rob one more year to prove himself. You may not want to, but no prob. Wouldn't be the first time morey missed badly, so I wouldn't be surprised.
It's obviously not 100% definitive that it was a bad trade, but available evidence tends to point that way. I am not sure how long people are supposed to wait before stating what they see. Teams constantly monitor player performance and update their opinions on each player. Not sure why fans cannot do the same.
Like all 1st round rookies, Robinson will get another year to prove himself given how the rookie scale contract works. I cannot and do not definitively rule out the possibility of him improving, either gradually or dramatically. I am simply evaluating based on information that's available at the moment (which includes his age, rookie status, and a decent size sample of NBA minutes). It's a Bayesian process, as new information come in, my opinion of Robinson will change (either becoming more positive or more negative).
This is how I see it. On a scale of 10 (5 is average): Patterson potential at the draft -- 7 rookie season performance -- 3.5 currently -- 5 highest ceiling -- 6 most likely ends up -- 5.5 Robinson potential at the draft -- 8 rookie season performance -- 2.5 currently -- 2.5 highest ceiling -- 7 most likely ends up -- 5.5 If my assessment is more or less correct, then this trade is not worth it on basketball reasons. It might be worth it for money reasons.
The weird thing about you making this statement is that you have generally advocated AGAINST knee-jerk responses in favor of long term results. Sure, coaches and management make updated assessments of their players all the time, that doesn't preclude them from taking a long term view on player evaluation along with current results.
Robinon's potential at the draft was way higher than a 8 if Patterson is a 7. Morey had Robinson at a probable #2 pick on his draft. I agree with you on the rookie season perfomance. Robinson's perfomance has been nothing short of terrible. I would dare say Patteron's rookie season was alot more promising. As for ceiling Robinson's is definitely alot higher than Patterson's, but after his rookie season, yeah it does not look promising. I think by next year we'll have a good indication of what player he will probably end up being.
