Minority Democrats in San Francisco look to recall Woke Whitey: update done

come to think of it, Texas seems like a freaking-ass weird place

 

There's a difference in finding a story interesting - and the San Francisco DA recall certainly is - and posting a lot about the daily issues in a city where you don't live while trying to portray it as an avatar for broader Democratic approaches to municipal government. I can think it's good that this DA was recalled - his approach clearly wasn't working and he erred egregiously in not prosecuting repeat criminals like the guy who drove a car into two women and killed them on New Year's Eve - but also remain skeptical that his policies were the main contributor to problems in the Tenderloin and SoMa. Those areas have always been magnets for drug-fueled crime and I don't believe that some sort of Reagan "Just Say No" fever dream is going to rid them of decades-long problems either.

I don't live in San Francisco and also acknowledge that, as one of the more lefty cities in the country (along with Portland and Seattle), some radical politics pop up there that don't in other places. Seattle's CHAZ and Trotskyite city councilwoman are things that don't feel possible anywhere else in the country and aren't more than curiosities to me. As such, I don't think it's appropriate to portray them as boogeymen for national politics writ large.

You tagged me in a post about Florida in an effort to portray me as hypocritical, but that's not an apples-to-apples comparison with your behavior in this and other San Francisco-related threads. Unlike Chesa Boudin, Ron DeSantis is a politician with clear presidential aspirations and he'll run on his record as governor. It's fair to extrapolate his governing style in Florida to the rest of the country because that's his sales pitch.

Your random tags of BBS members in unrelated threads is really weird btw.

 

Facebook uncle brain on full display.

 

you can always count on intellectually dishonest / misleading thread titles from the Tinman

But, according to the demographic map of the recall results, as summarized by the SFC, https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/baya...med-the-recall-on-the-right-wing-17226645.php,

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more whites than minorities----including many non-Democrats---voted for the recall​

 

Is This the End of the George Floyd Moment?
The Los Angeles and San Francisco election results add pressure on Democrats to balance criminal-justice reform with public safety.

https://www-theatlantic-com.proxy.l...f-la-primary-election-democrats-crime/661216/

 

We've been through these cycles before. Our society only cares about short term kick the can down the road solutions. We had a "tough on crime" era throughout the 80s and 90s and all it led to was mass incarceration where the US has the highest incarceration rate in the developed world.

We are a nation that just keeps spinning around chasing our tails.

Being empathic is a tool. It's a tool because it gives us a much more nuanced understanding of why people do things. The tool is what allows us to think of solutions for the actual root causes.

 

The Asian Recall
Data from last week’s election indicate that Bay Area Asian voters played a key role in ousting the city’s district attorney—and that they favor a more moderate politics.

https://www.city-journal.org/asian-voters-and-the-chesa-boudin-recall

 

There is a big push by the city's Asians to recall a bunch of scummy school board members. There was a fascinating article in the Atlantic about it. Basically the woke left is actively discriminating against Asians in school. Additionally, an extremely qualified white candidate was not selected for some sort of board specifically because he was white. A big push back against this now.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/how-san-francisco-became-failed-city/661199/

 

So this ruins the narrative that Democrats are all looking to go far left? most are actually moderate.

Or do people think it's Republicans that pushed back on this?

That entire school board thing was crazy but it's more about people trying to be the most woke and thinking they can just check all the boxes.

It just goes to show you can't let the fringe run your party, when are the Republicans going to figure this out?

 

This is what happens when the wokes follow Biden’s mantra of choosing truths over facts. A lot of nonsense that has no basis in fact.

 

Again this country will never see beyond quarterly numbers and trends. We are a nation that causes our own tail constantly never actually tackling problems with long term solutions.

 

Asians tend to vote Democrat but lean a little conservative. There is also a realization that there are in fact consequences to being super woke and ultra liberal beyond all common sense. I think its moderates coming to their senses quite frankly.

 

It’s a readjustment…. It has happened numerous times before at the local and even federal level. The same thing will eventually happen to the Republican Party as well.

Some of what the far left called for will eventually be integrated into society and some will not.

Everything is on a pendulum… yet some people seem to think it is all some sort of awesome change or revelation and it really isn’t.

It also doesn’t mean that the far left is necessarily done either… everything is right below a boil.

 

Change the laws or the system that created the laws.

You don't Save the World by changing what's being enforced and not doing your job.

Half-assed idiot mentality.


https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/23/progressive-da-west-coast-00159559
SAN FRANCISCO — Progressive prosecutors are under siege all along the West Coast, as voters in deep-blue metro areas express their frustration with more lenient approaches to crime.

The trend started with the 2022 recall ouster of San Francisco District Attorney Chesa Boudin, which criminal justice reformers once labeled a pandemic-induced anomaly unlikely to repeat in other liberal-leaning bastions.

But this week’s district attorney election in the ultra-liberal Portland area made it clear the sentiment isn’t a one-off. Progressive District Attorney Mike Schmidt was defeated by tough-on-crime challenger Nathan Vasquez, a prosecutor in Schmidt’s own office and an independent who was previously a Republican.



Similar voter frustration has emerged in California, with Alameda’s DA Pamela Price facing a recall, and Los Angeles’ George Gascón fighting for reelection.

Altogether, the hurdles facing progressive prosecutors on the “left coast” illustrate a backswing in public sentiment and perceptions of crime since the 2020 killing of George Floyd prompted a national reckoning on racism and conversation around the costs of tough-on-crime politics.

Voters in urban centers like San Francisco, Portland, Los Angeles and Oakland now appear to have grown impatient with aspects of the progressive mantra about restorative justice. And California progressives are taking note of Oregon’s vote.

“Multnomah County and LA County are 600 miles apart and worlds different,” said political strategist Jim Ross, who worked on Boudin’s anti-recall campaign, adding though that the Portland outcome “is an indication, I think that Gascón is going to have a really tough race.”

The shift comes as major cities have, to varying degrees, struggled with similar issues: sprawling homeless tent encampments, surging fentanyl overdose deaths and concerns about brazen theft.

In the San Francisco Bay Area, moderate advocacy groups heavily funded by wealthy tech investors have spent millions criticizing the progressive approach to criminal justice reform — and to oust Boudin.

Kanishka Cheng, co-founder of TogetherSF Action, part of that centrist network that has reshaped San Francisco politics, said the challenges to multiple prosecutors in liberal cities show that even progressive voters have had enough.

“No matter how progressive people are and how many ideals they have, at the end of the day, people need to have their basic needs met,” she said. “You want to feel safe.”

But reformers like Cristine Soto DeBerry accuse critics of seizing on post-pandemic challenges nationwide to “scapegoat” progressives on public safety.



“Unfortunately, these efforts are taking advantages of the destabilizing effect of the pandemic and the reality of the economy and inflation and challenges well outside of any local prosecutor’s control,” said Soto DeBerry, director of the progressive Prosecutors Alliance of California, who previously was chief of staff to Boudin and Gascón (during his earlier stint as San Francisco DA).

There are also limits to what Portland voters can reveal about those in Oakland or Los Angeles. The electorate in Oregon’s lower-turnout May primary was likely less Democratic than the one that will decide Price and Gascón’s fates in November. Schmidt’s Multnomah County is also smaller and less diverse than Los Angeles.

Party loyalty could be key for Gascón, who is running against Nathan Hochman, a former Republican — and Gascón is working to make sure voters know it. He has retained endorsements from Democratic mainstays like the county party and labor federation.

“It’ll be a much stronger Democratic turnout and more polarized” than in Multnomah, said Jeff Millman, who worked for Gascón’s Democratic primary challenger Jeff Chemerinsky. “Gascón is obviously hoping for that.”

Still, Millman argued that relying on Democratic allegiance will only go so far in a race shaped by concerns about public safety and quality of life.

“A lot of people will vote along the lines of their party,” Millman said, “but when you vote for a district attorney, it’s different from voting for a member of Congress, where you just vote for your team.”​