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Minor trade in the works, Woods requests and is granted release from his contract

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hooroo, Jul 14, 2008.

  1. W22_STREAK

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    Honestly, people, we need to get Javaris Crittenton!
    Aaron Brooks is not as ready as Crittenton is for the NBA. Not to mention the size, strength, defense, and all those other qualities Crittenton has over Brooks. Now with their glut of guards, we need to take advantage of this to trade for him!
     
  2. XBLRocketman111

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    Come on man crittenton doesn't have any experience, he will also be a project! we have a vet in rafer, a vet in jackson, and steve if our point guard situation goes that bad with AB. We have alot of options out there.
     
  3. A_3PO

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    AB isn't a project, huh? Crittenton has much more potential. The Rockets would be foolish not to make that trade straight-up if they had the chance. If we had to throw in Novak, I'd do it.
     
  4. XBLRocketman111

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    Your right they are both projects.

    We know brooks can score the ball and he needs to work on being more of a pure point guard. he said before the summer league he wasn't looking to score! he wanted to work on penetration and kicking it out, and making better plays on the break. he also want to use his speed as a change of pace. kinda like a tony parker you know he is quick but he only uses it in certain situations to catch the opponent off guard.

    he has one bad summer league game and everybody wants to trade him. if the rockets were not big on him or are not seeing improvement he would have went to sacramento at the trade deadline last year!
     
  5. A_3PO

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    In actual NBA games, we really don't know what Brooks can do. If he doesn't get any better than last year, we can conclude he doesn't belong in the NBA. The couple of times I saw Crittenton with the Grizz he looked very good and seemed to finish up pretty strong last season. He clearly has a higher potential than AB. While he's not a 3 point shooter, his athleticism leaves AB in the dust. In order to be effective at the NBA level, AB is going to have to use his speed as a weapon nearly every possession on offense because he's such a liability on defense. In addition, he needs to become a dead-eye 3-point shooter to punish teams that back off of him.
     
  6. SuperMarioBro

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    ... You mean a team like the Rockets?
     
  7. sook

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    g'bye luther
     
  8. DrNuegebauer

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    Last season Novak was second only to Kapono.

    Since Leunen is going to be playing overseas (as already stated by the Rockets brass) he's not taking Novaks spot.

    I'll be shocked if Novak AND Mike Harris don't make the final cut.

    Adelman seems to like Harris' hustle and heart, and it's a real "change-up" when we bring Novak on court for 3 minutes to drain a few triples.
     
  9. nolimitnp

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    Tootsie roll?
     
  10. Tha TC

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    it seems like i'm the only person to think that bobby jackson is gonna be gone... now that barry is here he can play some mins at the 1 making bobby no good
     
  11. batkins

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    Didn't Morey say around draft time, when talking about Maarty Leunen, that Novak will be around for at least one more year. Then he went on and said how important it is to have a shooting four.

    I bet Novak is not going to be in this "future" trade.
     
  12. nolimitnp

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    Hahaha someone please make this man a member!!!!
     
  13. nolimitnp

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    Stevie's best days were obviously with Cat. Not sure if the salaries match...but BJ and Head for Cat???
     
  14. batkins

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    I wouldn't want to trade Jackson's nice expiring contract for a bad one like Cuttino's.
     
  15. W22_STREAK

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    Man, you probably don't know enough about Crittenton to appreciate the player that he is, or will become.

    Crittenton has great athleticsm, size, and very good passing skills. I think he'll become very similar to Rondo in the next couple of years. He has the ability to play both guard spots due to his great size of 6'5 and he can DEFEND, which Brooks cannot do. Wasnt Brooks burned by Ronnie Price in the playoffs or something?

    You saying hes a project? Yeah by the time he becomes a proven player you'd have to give up twice or probably three times as much to acquire him than if you do now. Aaron Brooks is even a bigger project!

    When you look at potential...look at the skillset and tools each player has. Crittenton has better defense, passing, athletism, size, versatility, basically everything except speed. But he still has decent speed for a PG, its just that Aaron is faster than most PGs.

    In your argument you probably would have called Rondo a project. He won a championship in his 2nd year in the league. and he came into the draft as a sophomore...so how come I'm not hearing people saying he's a project?!

    Memphis 2nd rounder 2009
    Chuck Hayes
    Steve Novak

    for

    Javaris Crittenton

    sounds good?
     
  16. cmiller

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    Sounds good, but then we'd have four point guards.
     
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    He confused Redick's lateral speed guarding point guards with his shot release. Redick has a quick shot release. That is not his weakness in the NBA. Nor is his weakness "getting his shot off". He moves without the ball as well as Reggie or Rip.

    His weakness in the NBA is undersized at SG at about 6-5 190 6-3 wingspan and poor defense (too small to guard most SGs), without the ability to play PG on offense (same exact issues with Luther). The sad thing is that's still bigger than Luther is and also Redick is a much better shooter than Luther, with much deeper range. And he can shoot off the dribble, that's a big difference in skill set.

    Actually as incredible as Novak is shooting, Redick is better IMO.

    So maybe everyone here can try some objectivity. Look how everyone here is criticizing Redick and making fun of him and how people talk about him like he's some vile disease. Now try to grasp that Luther is worse than Redick in pretty much everything.

    The only thing Luther might have on him is 39 inches of hop versus 33 inches. So it's ironic to me that the opinion here is how pathetic Redick is, yet the Rockets have a worse backup SG that has been dead weight for 3 years and some here seem to even want him back for a 4th season. I just can't understand it. What more does Luther have to do to prove his suckiness?
     
  18. Spacemoth

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    I would have supported getting rid of Head in favor of Redick just three weeks ago, but since we acquired Barry and Greene I doubt we'd even be able to find playing time for him anymore. Morey has just been amazing at what he's done shoring up our weaknesses the past two years. First it was PF, which he turned from a weakness into a strength with Scola and Landry. And now it's backup SG. Honestly the only further "roster management" regarding backup SG will probably be the jettisoning of Head for whatever we can get, without trying to get anyone in return that might clutter up our roster.

    It would be nice to upgrade backup PG or C, but our cards are almost laid bare for anyone to see at this point. Luther Head is on his way out, and teams aren't going to give up much for him. As a Redick fan, I hope he goes to a team that can actually make use of his assets--such as Memphis now that they don't have Mike Miller, and every other wing on their team is a pretty awful long range shooter.
     
  19. Dave_78

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    He is the best defensive player on the team (sorry Shane).
     
  20. QdoubleA

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    woooooooow. Chuck Hayes. better defender. than Shane Battier. That is unbelievably ridiculous and I beg you to back it up.
     

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