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[Minnesota News] Massive COVID Fund Fraud Ring Busted.

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  1. K9Texan

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    I didn't say it's true; I only asked if it is.

    Did you admonish people who pushed the Democratic lie that Trump conspired with Putin?
     
  2. strosb4bros

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    It's a very real problem throughout the muslim world -- in the UK they are trying to legalize it. Explains the dangerous combination of low IQ and islam that leads to constant violence.

    The Determinants of Consanguineous Marriages among the Arab Population: A Systematic Review - PMC

    50-60% in some communities.
     
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  3. strosb4bros

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    It is crazy you think you've provided some sort of argument here rather than solidify the point of Somali's being frauds. When you don't like what the stats show, you brand it as misinformation. CNN tried that and failed. MSNBC tried that and are now "rebranded". The age old liberal techniques to deflect from accountability aren't working anymore. But it absolutely correlates with all data collected (even though we know so much of it is embellished to make these groups look more productive).

    Let's take the data you proudly flaunted. That Somali's have "higher labor force participation rate" than the General population and that somehow results in $67 million in taxes. That is an absolutely pathetic number for a group of 110,000 people in Minnesota (80,000 in Minneapolis), 55,000 of whom are working age.

    Data from the official state GOVT Minnesota site ( income tax overview) shows there were 3 million taxpayers in 2022 (resident and non resident).

    SOI Tax Stats - Gross collections by type of tax and state - IRS Data Book Table 5 | Internal Revenue Service

    ON the low end, they paid $35 billion in state tax and $123 billion in federal tax. That comes to an average of $52,666 in tax, but other metrics show it's higher (skewed by higher earners).

    On to the Somali's and their "67 million" in taxes from a labor force rate which isn't based on fraud related fields to government assistance at all. Let's pretend it's legit (we know it isn't). And let's say of the 55,000 working age people 40,000 are taxpayers. That's incredibly generous. That comes to an average of $1,675 per working Somali. A year. Yet they can afford to raise huge families and live in upper middle class houses in closed off neighborhoods somehow.

    They are a tremendous net negative to society and know this. So they game the system and use benefits to siphon cash from taxpayers that goes to cash purchases and flying suitcases of cash out of the country (many TSA agents telling stories on SM). It's a take what you can culture.

    @pgabriel , would you say there's a difference between $1,675 and $52,666? Are hundreds of millions in benefits and fraud, as well as an anti America pro Islam attitude, worth that $1,675?

    Next, you insult the Vietnamese by comparing Somali's to them. A people with a completely different culture, work ethic and IQ. And not burdened by the violence of Islamic ideologies. While IQ isn't the end all be all, it is closet predictor of behavior. And we see that with group success rates across the country.

    Average IQ by Country 2025

    Vietnam at 100, compared to Somalia at 67. The capabilities of two different people. And different attitudes as a result. The Vietnamese won't go around shouting Islamophobia and making death threats when you find out they've been stealing for a living.

    Your ideology results in Chaz like Seattle areas and is incredibly dangerous. "Everything is an exception and there's no widespread cultural element at play". American taxpayers are choosing to no longer be burdened by it. We must push for a mass scale denaturalization and deportation for a group that never should have been let in to begin with. And real convictions for Tim Walz and Jacob Frey who obviously encouraged this in order to get Somali voting power.
     
  4. strosb4bros

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    You are the kind of naive person they take advantage of. They cannot make it without stealing. It's not like they are passing up engineering degrees to do this. They mock how easy it is to steal from the taxpayers. Sure you'll have a few thousand exceptions, but when you get to 100,000 they will always cluster in groups and use tribalism and government handouts to thrive. That's exactly what America does not need.

    It's cruel to encourage Somalians to come here, like telling a handicapped person they can make it in the NBA with enough "education".

    The post above explains why they are completely different to groups like the VIetnamese.
     
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    I am well plugged into several immigrant communities from Asia and the Middle East, I am also a child of immigrants. This I can say from direct, personal experience as a member of these communities, and also an attorney that represents people from these communities:

    More than 90% of immigrants come here with good intentions, they are here simply for the opportunities they don't have in their home countries, and come with an attitude of "if I work at it, America has the opportunity for me to achieve it," the real American dream. Every one of those communities will have number of people who come with bad intentions, who discover "if I do this, or tell them this, I can get this for free," and once one does it they will have a train of followers who also come and run the same scam. It is a small number compared to the overall community, but it still does a TON of damage. I know for a fact there is a number of middle easterners who have run food stamp scams in Houston, people that are here on H1-B visas and have $80K+ jobs, but took free handouts because they could get away with it by lying on applications. The ones that got busted are paying a hefty price, as they should.

    The Somalian scam is different. This was planned, this was organized, governing officials from Somalia and the U.S. are involved at the top, and it's more than just getting extra money from the government because I can (although some of it is like that), this is a theft ring. When billions of dollars are involved, this is grand scale organized crime, and if you follow the money, we will see that it came from Somalia to steal money and hurt the U.S.A., with some U.S. officials complicit in the act.
     
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    Too much sugar from them donuts are rotting his brain!
     
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    There is no comprehensive IQ by country study thats ever done. Youre just a racist loser who has no social life. There's zero evidence of any of the garbage you post other than partisan think tanks paid to spit out a desired outcome

    Its always funny when your MAGAts pretend red states arent leaches that leach off blue states. Blue states subsidize your shithold states and its been that way for some time. CA single handily subsidized close to 5+ states in itself.

    You conservative are the biggest welfare queens in America and its always been that way.
     
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    One of the most important works of journalism of all time.



    GOOD DAY
     
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  9. pgabriel

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    Nick Shirley's expose has been exposed for it's many falsehoods
     
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    And not a SINGLE leftist here will even give your post a "like", let alone acknowledge and condemn the corruption along with the government officials that have participated in or simply allowed these staggering levels of corruption to occur.

    The love, loyalty, and devotion of every leftist is to the party/state. They utterly ignore reality and suffering of circumstances that portray their party/state masters in a less-than-glorious light.

    They adhere to the Mussolini doctrine:

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    So it turns out that the Republican candidate for governor in Minnesota is the person who invented the story and "leaked" it to Shirley. Basically comitting slander/libel/defamation to improve her election chances at the expense of hard working immigrants and innocent children.

    People are gonna get sued over this and the defendants ate going to lose, at least until Trump ineviatably pardons them. But the story isn't just an accident or a misunderstanding. It's fraudlent malace for personal gain by the people who invented and promoted it.

    And even after the people who invented the story lose in court, MAGA will keep repeating it as unquestioned truth because they want SO BADLY for it to be true because is will validate all their prejudice and hate.

    Also, until very recently Nick Shirley was one of those annoying douchy kids that pranked (annoyed) people on Youtube, so that should be your first red flag that your "journalistic hero" might not be much of an actual journalist.
     
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    Are you claiming that it's all made-up and that there is no fraud? Were the charges brought by the Biden DOJ also imaginary?
     
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    Your on my ignore list, so dont expect any more responses. Every once-in-a-while curiosity gets the better of me but it never lasts long and I usually regret it.

    Everything alleged by Shirley is made up or just innuendo, not anchored by reality and is completely baseless to the point of putting him in legal jeopardy. It's an internet influencer "likes" w**** of a child trying to get in on James O'Keefe's grift but being not nearly so adroit at cleverly skirting liability concerns.

    He was used by the Minnesota GOP (as well as all the interested parties who piled on the bandwagon after) because he and his mom handler hunger for internet fame and he's a kid who lack the sophistication to game it out 3 or 4 moves down the line. He got his fame, but when the bill comes due he's going to be left holding the bag all by himself.





    The total dollar amount stolen by convicted fraudsters pardoned by Trump in the last year significantly excedes the phantom made up number Nick Shirley invented out of thin air.

    If Republicans really cared about fraud they wouldn't be selling get out of jail free cards to every convicted fraudster who can pony up the cash to pay off Donnie, and invalidating all their pending restitution debt. Trump's OWN FU**ING FAMILY WAS CONVICTED of fraudlently stealing from St Jude's Children's Hospital. SAINT JUDES F**KING CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL who's mission is to help children with cancer and not bill the families. But suddently Republicans care about the children and fraud?

    If you believe this is about a deep abiding concern about fraud I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd be willing to part with at a very reasonable price. PM me if interested.

     
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    Intentionally misleading information by CNN. Their agent called the center and asked if they were open, the center replied yes, and now they're legit. Luckily no one views them as a credible news organization and they have the lowest ratings on tv. Already been debunked. Also, the one center asked to provide records made up a story about someone breaking into the center and stealing everything. They literally operate at a middle schooler dog ate my homework level of intelligence.

    For obvious reasons, there are no videos of kids arriving at the daycare on outdoor camera's before Shirley investigation. All files were physical and were magically stolen.

    This isn't a new issue, it's just something that didn't have consequences because of Walz/Frey need for voting bloc. That's why what Shirley did is important, because the call for consequence is finally here for something everyone knew of for over a decade.

    62 investigations underway involving federally-funded Minnesota child care centers - KSTP.com 5 Eyewitness News
     
  16. K9Texan

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    Like how your political heros made up the story about Trump conspiring with Putin that culminated with the creation of a DOJ Special Counsel to investigate him?
     
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    Was this also made up?

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    Somewhere at the end of this post should be a mic drop, and everyone with brains walks away
     
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    Not really.

    What you aren't willing to acknowledge is the monolithic fraud, theft, and waste of the fruits of the people's labor. It's staggering. For some reason, you love and serve political and government elites that have become enormously rich by stealing the people's money.

    Why is that?
     
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    Let me know when you start your next threat about some Evangalical Pastor or member stealing a bunch of money, or molesting kids, or whatever it is you'll just pay no attention to.

    You do know that fraud and theft happen across all sections of society, right? And it's all bad. Race/color/creed/economic standing....every layer of society has shitbag grifters & thieves.

    It's the hypocrites, the ones who hold themselves up as paragons of virtue and then display none of those characteristics in word and deed, that really piss me off.
     
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