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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by michecon, May 23, 2002.

  1. Rocketeer

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    Nice! Very, very fluid for a man his size. Alot of raw talent but no question in talent. Very nice and smooth jumper. The only thing that bothered me was this clip: Hoop and some harm 600k . When he leans in to this guy to get his shot of, he just bounced of his chest and the defender was just standing. There's where the big question is, will he be able to post inside?. No doubt that this will be worked on but it will certainly take some time.
     
  2. Axeman

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    Dude, you are joking right? The guy is 7 FOOT FREAKING 5 INCHES. He can just stand there with his arms in the air and block 98% of the shots taken by NBA players.

    Give the guy a break!

    These videos show that the guy has NBA skills. He can pass, he knows how to rebound, he can drain the open jumper. He even shows a nice Dream-Shake type move on the left block, fading away from the basket and draining it.

    And, MAN can he SWAT shots. There is no way the Rockets aren't taking this guy unless the Chinese government demands Rudy T's testicles in return.
     
  3. Axeman

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    Last time I checked, there was a guy named Shaquille O'Neal who makes a living doing that... Do you really think that's such a big deal?
     
  4. Rocketeer

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    That's not the point, look at whos defending him. My point is he has a very light upperbody.
     
  5. kubli9

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    I can't believe people are ranting and raving about what he's doing in this video. Look at the level of competition he's playing against. What you're seeing is a 7'5" giant playing with a bunch of little chinese guys running around like chickens with their heads cut off. All he has to do is sit there with his hands up. This is getting ridiculous how everyone is buying into the hype, this guy is a bust waiting to happen.
     
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    Yao had some impressive moves in the video...but I'm a lil more concerned about his weaknesses.

    He seems to have a knack for committing bad fouls...I think refs mite jump all over the kid. I dunno about his post defense....obviously his weakside D is ok with his shot-blocking ability.

    If you guyz saw him play against Christofferson in Chicago, Chris just bulled him over...most of the time that looks like it mite be called as blocking the league. This could be a problem.
     
  7. Sane

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    I think if he starts lifting weights, VERY moderately, he can be excellent. But there's too much risk around when he'll be available to train/play/practice.
     
  8. moomoo

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    From what I see in the videos, Ming moves about as well as T-Mac, maybe even better. (Todd MacCulloch, that is)

    I also was not very impressed. He seemed pretty slow and unathletic for someone that's supposed to go head to head with the most athletic ballerz in the world, IMO.
     
  9. Axeman

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    I'm going to go out on a limb here. I'm going to make the statement that Yao Ming is going to be a force in this league in the near future.

    Hey, I also posted the last three years in a row that the Rockets would be in the lottery, got flamed off the board, yet somehow ended up being right. I hope I'm right this time! :D
     
  10. CriscoKidd

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    You know, it really is weird to see you being one of the most optimistic people on the board for a change Axeman. ;)
     
  11. Axeman

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    Thanks, Crisco. You know, everyone took it the wrong way when I predicted lottery. I'm a Rockets fan 'til the end, but I'm also realistic. If your favorite team sucks it doesn't mean you have to deny it right?

    I am very optimistic about the Rockets chances if they pick Ming. What has been the weakest part of their game the past three years? Interior defense and rebounding. Any team with a decent center or power forward just abuses us. Our guards have been keeping up with the best in the West. Shoring up the middle with a 7' 5" skills player who can rebound and block will put us over the hump.

    Look at Tim Duncan. Is he "dominant"? I would say not like Hakeem or Shaq was. But, he is fundamentally sound and can do everything well. Shoot, board, block. Let's not forget that BOTH of Ming's parents were professional basketball players in China. The kid has been raised to play basketball. He is fundamentally solid. You can see it from watching the videos. He has a sweet shot. Knows how to time his jumps for rebounds. He swats with authority. And, he can even "stop and pop" as Murph likes to say. You can't coach that into a guy at the NBA level. He has to have that talent and skill before he gets there.

    Now, sure, the guy is going to still have to develop, to get up to speed on the NBA game. But, once he gets used to the pace and the physical play on the inside, he is going to tear it up. I truly believe.

    I don't care what league you play in. If you can average 72% from the field, that means you can shoot. Most NBA guys can't shoot that in warmups. He's done it during a competitive season.

    I don't care what league you play in. If you can average 20 boards a game, that means you know how to board. You may not get 20 a game in the NBA, but nobody's going to have to teach you the fundamentals of rebounding, either.
     
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    This guy did against pro's what Chandler,Curry, and Brown did against kids. He's already 296 andhas a good base and is very skillful. Peole want to talk about getting movedin the post, but its prbably more important to have a stronger lower body than upper body. The upper body part is mostly for finishing plays. Look at Barkley's upper body and people wouldn't have thought of him as strong, but his base is wht made him impossible to move off the blocks and hold his position. If it were all upper body stregnth, then David Robinson should have never been pushed off the blocks, but he did because of those small legs and thighs.

    I didn't mean to jump off subject, but I remember th same scenerio last yr concerning Gasol. Is he strong enough? Is he quick enough? Is he this or is he that? What Gasol proved is thata skilled athlete can make an immediate impact over just a athlete. Ming has some of the same skills as Gasol except he's bigger and a little stronger. So I pass the question, does anyone think that a Gasol type player wit more size and more strength should be passed up ?I agree with the guy earlier in that if this guy was crushing high schoolers it wouldn't even be close.
     
  13. AgentPenguin

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    Ok he can solve our SF problem, but we still need a center.
     
  14. Lobo

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    From what I see he's worth the #1 pick if there aren't too many strings attached to his availability. I agree that if these were American high school videos, we would all be saying this is a no-brainer. I don't know much about the Chinese league, but I'm guessing it's at least as good as the average American high school game.

    The guy seems to have skills and mobility. We shouldn't expect too may centers out there to have a physical game like Shaq, who is really a freak anyways.
     
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    cant view videos. i right click and save target. then open with quicktime i get the following:

    "you may experience problems playing a video track in "ym6.avi" b/c the required compressor could not be found. would you like to close the..."

    if i choose windows media player i get:

    "cant play back the video, no suitable decompressor could be found."

    please help me the BBS, you're my onnly hope...
     
  16. red

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    if i just click on the link i get:

    "quicktime is missing software required to display this move file. unfortunately unable to download from site blah blah blah..."
     
  17. AgentPenguin

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    Thanks for posting the videos
     
  18. tikwanleap

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    Red, you need to install the divx codec first. Read my posts earlier in this thread. :D
     
  19. writhe

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    Has everyone lost their minds? This guy is garbage. Stealing the ball at midcourt and taking it in for a dunk? I saw the same highlight 9 years ago by Shawn Bradley. You think he's a stud?

    I'm really disappointed all you guys can't see what a HUGE bust Ming is gonna be, regardless of all the political obstacles.

    Trade down. Draft Butler.
     
  20. glynch

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    I got the video to work. Michecon and others, thanks. Install divx first as they say.

    I think we can see that Ming will not be a bust from the clips.
    How good he will be is probably going to be a function of his character. This by all accounts is one of his strong points as he is definitely used to being the man, but in a team oriented kind of way. I think we must remember the 21 of 21 in the championship game and the good shooting when on the stage in front of the hundreds of onlookers in Chicago. The guy is mentally tough.

    Leebigez said:
    Look at Barkley's upper body and people wouldn't have thought of him as strong, but his base is wht made him impossible to move off the blocks and hold his position. If it were all upper body stregnth, then David Robinson should have never been pushed off the blocks, but he did because of those small legs and thighs.

    This is a key point. No one is more cut than David Robinson who was quick and very athletic , but those skinny legs put him completely at the mercy of Hakeem a much smaller man. with leg strength.
     

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