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Miller: Can he teach Yao the high Post?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocket River, Jul 20, 2010.

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  1. pippendagimp

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    what's with the recent need to call posters/rockets dumb and/or stupid lately :confused:
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Not the proper thread...

    Yes, Brad Miller can help teach Yao the High post, he has been very effective at it for years, and that can only help Yao as he transitions a bit more this season.

    DD
     
  3. pippendagimp

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    you just spent 2 pages defecating all over this thread already, another post explaining your sudden IQ superiority complex isn't gonna hurt :grin:
     
  4. DaDakota

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    I could explain it, but you probably wouldn't understand it.

    :grin:

    DD
     
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    This is what i was trying to say and I relate it to francis in a sense. I can't remember what kind of brian they use the most, but its kinda like how eli and carson are totally different from peyton and brees. In other words, yao and francis aren't good at processing multiple options and making fast decisions. Now if only 1 option presents itself, they're fine. When yao want to score and is determined to score in a situation, he's good. If you watch the film and see when he hits the 15 ft er vs when he misses, its when he's processing on whether to take the shot or not. When he's been in the situation to just let it fly, its like a layup. So maybe slow thinker is a poor word, but DD summed up my wording for me.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    I am just a quicker thinking poster than you leeb.

    ;)

    DD
     
  7. Easy

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    It's probably more important to make Yao Yao than to make Brad Miller Brad Miller. ;)
     
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    DD and Deck. If you can think of padding your offensive rebounding stats by intentionally missing layups, then you are pretty smart in my book. So, yeah, I'd say Moses was smart. :grin:
     
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    I was feeding my 8 month old :grin: . Actually, there are so many fanboys that you have to be careful on even general statements. Go and read abc2007 post in this thread to understand what I'm saying. Back to yao, people want to say its his size and body which i disagree with. Playing at the high post has nothing to do with either. As i said earlier, its about anticipation and angles. To understand the action thats going on backside and strongside when playing at the high post, the player has to really understand and be ready to deliver when the crack is opening. Chuck hayes is a huge liability in the high post, but he made some great passes because he was passing the guy opening. He understood the angle and the concept of anticipation that got guys layups on backdoor cuts.
    Now, as juwon said earlier in hayes career, chuck has a very high basketball iq in which he survives with though he is limited. Yao can function well at the high post if nothing else as a pick and pop shooter or ball reversal player which opens the baseline. After 7 yrs or so in the league, i don't think he will ever be able to process and deliver passes from the high post as well as someone like divac,miller, or even a guy like cmby who does it very well also. Thats not such a bad thing, its just a thing. I would like to see him to whoot everytime he gets the ball there and he has space. He's a very good shooter from there, but his hesitation is what kills his %.
     
  10. Rocket River

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    I think YAO is going to surprise alot of folx this year!

    Rocket River
    NBA Championships!!
     
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    Your evaluation IMO is spot on. Not to merge threads, but it just shows that there is a place for stat crunching, as well as simply watching a guy play.

    But just to show that your observations can also be quantified:

    What is Yao's FG% from 15feet+ after receiving the ball for
    1 sec?
    3 sec?
    5 sec?

    If there is a notable decline, then it proves that it is his hesitation that kills his %.

    Data like this is obviously not widely available, but it CAN be measured/quantified, and can be a great asset/tool in the evaluation process. Although you think it is his hesitation that causes a decrease in %, but do you know for sure? This is where stats come in.

    And this is only one bad example of a million situational stats that we can look at. And all we are looking at here is a most basic FG%, not even some of the most sophisticated algorithms coming out nowadays.

    Your "trained eyes" were adept in spotting this particular situation(Yao's hesitation), but it would be foolish to assume our eyes can capture EVERYTHING. Ya dig?
     
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    Thanks for posting this great video. Damn it, why do the Rockets have to be so cursed with bad injuries??? The only team worse than us, injury wise, are the Blazers.

    Praying that Yao is able to comeback to his old self. The miracle of medicine needs to work one more time.
     
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    I get it. You think Moses Malone is dumb. When you are reduced to using "roll-eyes" the "conversation" is over.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    The conversation never started Deckard......it was pointless, and I was attempting to point that out to you.

    I failed.

    DD
     
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    I feel like Yao with the ball in the high post will just lead to a lot of turnovers..
     
  16. RocketForever

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    Before you said this, a few persons have already pointed out it's not because of watching and learning. The problem is to get the cooperation of his massive body frame to move fast enough.

    You seem to be the slow thinker here. (can't help it :cool: )
     
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    Yes, you failed.
     
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    AB was creating a havoc on Spurs defense.
     
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    in that vein, we must have 2 very smart members here because they seem to be padding their post counts by intentionally missing each others' points... ;)
     
  20. saleem

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    Battier has some post up skills, but he can't be expected to do too much. Juwan had to replace him at the 4 under JVG. He can post up 3's, but he is better as an outside shooter. I do agree with you,it would be great to have a power wing player.
     

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