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MILITARY RECRUITMENT - 9/7 JOB FAIR IN THE ASTRODOME

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by No Worries, Sep 7, 2005.

  1. Major

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    They didn't really write about the job fair at the Toyota Center - it was one line in a long article, and I wouldn't have been surprised if they didn't mention that either. It's included in a list of the things the city is doing - they mention websites, school registrations, the job fair, etc. The military recruitment is not something the city is doing, nor is it something that people can go attend or what not. It's a bit different than all the things they mention.
     
  2. Major

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    Sounds to me bigtexxx got fooled by a bad Onion link then. :)
     
  3. Rocket River

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    honestly. . . .
    under normal circumstances the military would be a nice options
    but
    the War in Iraq going on . . . I can see alot of these
    folx on the front line in 4~6 months.

    Will that really be a great come up . . .
    from hurricane survivor to another life threatening situation?

    Rocket River
     
  4. bigtexxx

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    LOL - now that's funny. Liberals you never cease to humor me. Always there to put a smile on my face!
     
  5. wesnesked

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    So whats your point? Its the military, thats what they do, they fight wars. Anybody not realizing at any time, under 'normal' or war time circumstances you can be sent to a war zone, is nieve. Conflicts (Bosnia, Somalia, Vietnam, Korea...) around the world break out at all times, and our military has always been quick to respond. Why is this thread so negitive about the military, they fight every day to protect our asses. Though we don't know if the article is true, I have no doubt that there were recruiters at the dome, and there should have been.
     
  6. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    But wouldn't you expect (at the very least) some "liberal" or anti-Bush/anti-war publication or crusader to be jumping all over this story and all we have is a random blogger "reporting" it? Simply look at all the posters in this thread who have slammed this idea. Had this actually happened as reported in the blog, it would be newsworthy - U.S military recruiting is down and they are "taking advantage" of hurricane victims.
     
  7. rhadamanthus

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    According to the news this morning on the radio (kpft) no recruitment has been undertaken. Recruiters are in the building assisting other national guradsmen, but none have asked or been given permission to recruit.
     
  8. F.D. Khan

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    You're a fool. When did I ever state that someone working in any manner is inferior?? Unlike you I realize that there must be lower, middle and upper wage earners in order to promote movement within those groups based on hard work. If you had it your way we'd be like in Europe or Argentina where everyone is lower-middle class at the expense of the state.

    I respect the hell out of any worker regardless of what they do. What I don't respect are socialists/communists like you that with all your silly conspiracy theories have no idea how governments and economies work. And I don't respect the fact that you don't realize that when you push for hikes in the minimum wage and unionized labor then you complain about unemployment rates you don't realize that one causes the other.

    Its not that I don't believe that the government should be helping, but I honestly believe private charities are more efficient as businesses than the government, meaning they will expect and demand results for their funds versus that of government agencies.
     
  9. Major

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    I would expect that... but what other first-hand sources are you going to have? Bloggers aren't wandering around the Astrodome, as far as I know. I imagine people volunteering at the Astrodome have much better things to do and probably aren't being terribly political (I'd hope). I'm not saying that I believe or disbelieve it - I posted that in my first post of this thread - but I don't think "military recruiting people at the Astrodome" is really a major news story over all the other stuff that's being covered.
     
  10. MR. MEOWGI

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    I'm glad the military is not trying to take advantage of these people right now. It looks like they agree with the "liberals" that it wouldn't be prudent. I wouldn't have any problem with them being a part of a larger job fair in the future too.
     
  11. No Worries

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    This just in ...

    Fox News is reporting that WMD have been finnaly found in Iraq.

    MSNBC is also now reporting that Fox News is reporting that ...

    BTW I will not be surprised if either this story is true or false.

    BTW2 here is Reuter story about current censorship of the NOLA tragedy.

    FEMA accused of censorship
    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - When U.S. officials asked the media not to take pictures of those killed by Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath, they were censoring a key part of the disaster story, free speech watchdogs said on Wednesday.

    The move by the Federal Emergency Management Agency is in line with the Bush administration's ban on images of flag-draped U.S. military coffins returning from the Iraq war, media monitors said in separate telephone interviews.
     
  12. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I would be incredibly surprised if the story is true "as is". I would not be surprised if a branch or branches of the military had a booth set up at the job fair that is being held at Toyota Center.

    Here is what the blogger wrote with respect to censorship:

    "Things are so bad, Bush is now censoring all reporting from NOLA. The First Amendment sank with the city."

    Hmmm, I could have sworn I saw Brian Williams and others reporting from New Orleans on Wednesday nights news.
     
  13. Rocket River

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    the point is
    how much of a choice is it to say
    you can be a refugee - with nothing
    or
    on the front line of a conflict . . . with 3 hots and a cot

    those your only options. . .

    I find it . .distasteful
    If they choose it .. fine but I would hate for folx to
    feel forced into it. . .

    I have no negativity for the military at all . . . .
    I'm not Pro-Draft . . nor quasi draft by taking people
    in a bad situation and offering them no other solution

    Rocket River
     
  14. RocketsPimp

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    I don't find anything wrong with them "recruiting" people that likely won't for several more months and will almost assuredly have a difficult time making ends meet for much longer. No one if forcing anyone to join. While it's true that these drastic and unfortunate circumstances could help sway any individual's decision to join the military and there is always the risk of being deployed into combat, everyone still has the freewill to say "No" and turn down the opportunity for housing, food, healthcare, job training, a steady paycheck and other possibilities such as college.

    Personally I just can't compare joining the military to putting my life back together after losing everything in such a huge natual disaster.
     
  15. No Worries

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    Does not pass the sniff test. Recruiters recruit. It might not be their top priority or even an *official* responsibility while they are helping out at the Astrosdome.
     
  16. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    So the KPFT report does not pass the sniff test, but a random blogger's report of something that was forwarded to him (that no major/minor news outlet has reported on) does?
     
  17. deepblue

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    What's your point? Ban any type of recruiters from helping out at the Astrodome?
     
  18. No Worries

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    Funny you should mention Brian Williams ...

    Media blackout pt. II
    http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/25195/

    Yesterday we looked at the suspicious actions of FEMA, working tirelessly to whitewash their failure and now...

    Peek guest blogger Lindsay Beyerstein is down in Louisiana with Bob Brigham of the Swing State Project who writes:

    "We are in Jefferson Parish, just outside of New Orleans. At the National Guard checkpoint, they are under orders to turn away all media. All of the reporters are turning they're TV trucks around. Things are so bad, Bush is now censoring all reporting from NOLA. The First Amendment sank with the city."

    Jeralyn Merritt also quotes NBC's Brian Williams' chilling description:

    "At that same fire scene, a police officer from out of town raised the muzzle of her weapon and aimed it at members of the media... obvious members of the media... armed only with notepads. Her actions (apparently because she thought reporters were encroaching on the scene) were over the top and she was told. There are automatic weapons and shotguns everywhere you look. It's a stance that perhaps would have been appropriate during the open lawlessness that has long since ended on most of these streets. Someone else points out on television as I post this: the fact that the National Guard now bars entry (by journalists) to the very places where people last week were barred from LEAVING (The Convention Center and Superdome) is a kind of perverse and perfectly backward postscript to this awful chapter in American history."
     
  19. deepblue

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    They asked not to take pictures of the bodys of hurricane victims, I would hardly consider that censorship.
     
  20. No Worries

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    Yes. Ban military recruiters from the Astrodome. It is a conflict of interest.

    Think about it. Recruiters are missing their ever lowered quotas. There is enormous pressure from on high to increase recruits. They should be the last to go to the relief efforts except if there is an ulterior motive.
     

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