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MILITARY RECRUITMENT - 9/7 JOB FAIR IN THE ASTRODOME

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by No Worries, Sep 7, 2005.

  1. u851662

    u851662 Contributing Member

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    Really for some of them it will be the best option for them. As well some of them need the wake up call that the military can give. It is a neccessary evil (not that the military is evil just the situation they would be signing up for.) But we all know military recruiters lie to get you to sign up. I hate to say it but its the truth.
     
  2. Major

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    If you're going to lock someone into a multi-year commitment, then yeah, it's probably not the best time and place to recruit someone if you want committed and happy employees. No, that's not at all ridiculous.
     
  3. Major

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    You realize the militay has a history of unethical recruiting, right? Just three months ago they had to shut off recruiting for a while.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/05/20/national/main696991.shtml

    <I>CBS News has reported that from asking teens to lie to their parents to guiding them through duping the drug-test system and forging documents, recruiters will go to many lengths to get young people to enlist. One Houston-area recruiter was caught on tape threatening jail time if an applicant didn't keep his appointment.</I>

    You combine this with vulnerable people and you're asking for a disaster.
     
  4. Chance

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    It was in the artificially inflated 90s when a BS dot com economy made everyone a ton of fake money.
     
  5. Oski2005

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    Isn't that the answer to how people and the economy were doing? You can't pay your taxes with "fake" money. But if you cut taxes and increase spending overall, well that's just not gonna lead to a balanced budget.
     
  6. Major

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    You really should look at government spending numbers before making a claim like this. In real terms, from 1992 to 2000, government spending grew a total of 10%. From 2000 to 2004, government spending grew 17%. Revenues also grew during the first time period and shrank during the last four years (during a growing economy). It wasn't just a slowing economy. Tax cuts combined with out-of-control spending have produced the huge big deficits.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2006/sheets/hist01z3.xls
     
  7. insane man

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    people like you dont see the gov't as one to help out those who need help but instead to help the rich get richer and let the not so lucky people get trampled. this exact mindset manifests the selfish greed that many arab countries have in reference to helping out palestinians.

    so much for muslim brotherhood huh?
     
  8. thacabbage

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    Wow, what a great characterization of our nation's impoverished citizens. Thank God for you that you're so hard working and responsible. :rolleyes:

    I've got news for you - taking care of its own citizens is not the reason governments are bankrupt.
     
  9. Chance

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    your point is valid. The tax cuts were too great to absorb the climate that developed after the attacks and with the war. I have no arguement at all.

    I just wanted to remind people that the dot com bust during Bush had a boom during Clinton.
     
  10. JuanValdez

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    I'm familiar. I've dealt with a Navy recruiter and a Marines recruiter from times my brothers were flirting with the military. The guy from the Marines was a particular ******* and I wanted to ring his neck. But my brothers were looking for information and made decisions about what they thought was best for their lives, they didn't make light-hearted decisions about their futures based on some bs from recruiters.
     
  11. Major

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    And that's great for you and your family. However, not everyone will know that it's BS. And generally, the most vulnerable will be the poor and/or the desperate - a combination of which you've got at the Astrodome. It's generally due to a lack of access to information or a desperate hope to believe in something. That's why I have a problem with the military recruiting here as opposed to recruiting your family. There's a much higher chance that some of these people will be taken advantage of. Not all, of course, but the density of those who are most vulnerable is highest here.
     
  12. thacabbage

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    It's not like joining any other company though. It's a completely different ballgame. By joining the Army right now, they would be putting their lives in direct danger. When people are in desperate situations, like the evacuees you see in Houston, they are much more likely to make choices they otherwise wouldn't have ever considered.

    I understand the anecdotes from many of you that you were in tough times and decided to enlist. I have my doubts whether or not your home and community was completely destroyed and you were seperated from loved ones. It also makes a difference that we are situated in a quagmire overseas with no foreseeable conclusion to the conflict. Rash decision making is always a result of any sudden crisis. Especially during one on such a large scale as this. That is why this is capitalization on vulnerablity.
     
  13. Uprising

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    I actually agree with Shady. If I lost everything, and have nothing to go back to.....so I pretty much have to start over, I'd join the Army to get the resources needed to start all over in a few years.
     
  14. Chance

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    For some of us, deperation is desperation. Whether it was hurricane induced, self inflicted, or whatever. The military is an OUTSTANDING opportunity for some of these folks. I am glad the armed forces are there rescuing some of the people there.
     
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    So the liberals on here (No Worries, rhaddymanthus, et al) don't want the military to enlist new members? Wow. This confirms all my suspicions about the liberals and their desires for the military and the troops not to succeed. All my beliefs have been 100% confirmed by this thread. Disgusting. Whose side are you on, liberals???? Wow.
     
  16. thacabbage

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    I think the liberals care more for the interests of the people rather than the military, if the latter would come in any conflict with the former. I think the liberals care a little bit more than labeling everyone as liberal/conservative.

    Why don't you enlist, texxx?
     
  17. AMS

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    thas if you dont get shot fighting some iraqis.
     
  18. rhadamanthus

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    Delete. I refuse to sink to the neocon lvl.
     
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  19. u851662

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    Good question, all my conservative friends, my boss, colleagues always talk about how good the Army is, but when I ask them would they recommend their kid go if he WANTED to, all of them come up with excuses. Kinda makes me think they feel like its okay as long as its not one of their own. ;)
     
  20. AggieRocket

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    Wow. That's one hell of a judgment on your part. How old are you? Judging by that comment, you are either independently wealthy or you have no clue on how average people live.
     

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