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[Military.com] J.D. Vance: What I Learned in the Marine Corps

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  1. adoo

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    better worry about your team of Trump & Vance, when being asked on their stand on abortion ban and on the ban on TikTok !

    JD Vance has repeatedly said that he is
    • for a national ban on abortion with no exception.
    • not for a ban on the Chinese social media co, TikTok, conducting business in the US
     
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    Good point raised here. If you do not have children, you lack a key perspective needed to govern.
     
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    Your side is done like burnt toast.
     
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    The issue of abortion was returned to the states for each to decide. It was not banned. If you don't understand this, then perhaps sit this one out.
     
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  5. adoo

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    But then we have this from the article,…
    • Now, Vance says exceptions are an essential part of how Republicans need to frame their positions on abortion.


    Vance has more recently praised and echoed Trump’s position that states can make their own abortion laws.

    it’s common for people in politics to refine their positions. We seen it all the time. Biden doesn’t talk about “racial jungles” like he did back In his mid-30s and I think the position Vance has now is corrected for the best
     
  7. adoo

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    making another 180 degree turn, in the same manner that he had re-framed / disguised his utter disdain for Trump, whom he had referred to as America's Hitler
     
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    Is it common for people to go from calling a politician Hitler to being that politician's right-hand man?
     
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  9. ROXTXIA

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    WHAT I LEARNED IN THE U.S. MARINE CORPS by J.D. Vance:
    NOT character

    "Trump is noxious. You can say I'm a never-Trumper. He's Hitler. I'd rather vote for Hillary Clinton." (actual quotes, pretty much, btw)

    Trump: "How'd you like to be one old man's heartbeat away from the Presidency?"

    "I love Trump. He's awesome. He's going to save Christianity and America. Trump is better than a bowl of Frosted Flakes with nice cold milk, you know, not milk that's been sitting on the counter for 10 minutes, milk straight from the fridge. Just thinking of Trump makes my nuts bubble......"
     
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  10. Rocket River

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    McCain was crushed for having an Adopted Daughter of Color
    Jeb Bush had a hispanic wife I beleive that did not help him
    I guess the republican party has grown up?


    The fact that he U Turn on Trump
    and
    scooped the nomination is interesting
    and how that happened feels like it should be a movie like The Big Sick

    Rocket River
     
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    Angela Merkel and Olaf Scholz are good examples of this in Germany as well.
     
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    A woman period . . . . .

    [​IMG]

    I think he is the Corey Booker of the republican party


    I think people really don't take Trump's age and health in to consideration enough

    Rocket River
     
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    It's not uncommon for people to be wrong even egregiously and be enlightened so that's a good thing ;)
     
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    What is more likely?
    he was enlightened? Or he saw supporting Trump as the oath of least resistance to holding more power and influence?

    That's the most dangerous type of man. A man who can see the severe flaws and concerns of a Trump like figure but goes along with it because he gets better access to power.
     
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    What a disgrace to the Republican Party!
    -Ted Cruz
     
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    People do change their minds. This isn't it. This is creepy and extreme opportunism.
     
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    Every Democrat politician last week was claiming that Biden was too old to be president. They will all change their tune. You are holding Vance to stuff he said 8 years ago before Trump had governed anything, not last week.
     
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    There are about 1,000 of those a day.
     
  19. Amiga

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    Perhaps his transformation is like that of someone who has found Q?

    J.D. Vance Praised Alex Jones as a Truth-Teller in Speech to Leonard Leo-Backed Group — ProPublica

    In his case, he said, “I believe the devil is real and that he works terrible things in our society. That’s a crazy conspiracy theory to a lot of very well-educated people in this country right now.”

    “Look, I think there’s a not-terrible chance that one of you is going to be sharing cellblock 12A in Premier Harris’ prison detention camp in a few years,” he explained, seemingly referring to Vice President Kamala Harris. “If we’re going to all end up in that place, we might as well have a little fun while we get there. It’s OK to troll when you make and speak fundamental truths. But, look, I do think what I said was correct.”
     
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    This pick feels less than strategic and more like spiking the football. Vance brings absolutely nothing to the table. He is merely an empty vessel from which Trumpism can be carried forward for a new generation. Vance's heel turn from practically populist left to Alex Jones right shows his level of naked ambition. At least Mike Pence had principles.
     
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