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Milicic on Yao: "He told me his foot is bothering him"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Air Langhi, Nov 8, 2010.

  1. liljojo

    liljojo Member

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    Yes, because I'm sure the team doctors are completely ignoring his foot now he's playing again.

    Believe me, Yao's foot is being monitored all day, every day.
     
  2. RocketForever

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    Backpedaling much? In post #33, you based on argument on the fact that we beat the Wolves every game last season. Therefore, the win should be a given. Did you watch the Warriors game? Do you even know we beat the Warriors every game last season too? Answer me.

    Oh, so everyone who exposes your stupidity would automatically become your "fanboy"??? ROFL. Your idiotic way of thinking is even more laughable than your dumb posts.
     
  3. leebigez

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    No backpedaling in my blood. Just a simple question and maybe its nothing or maybe adelman is truthful or maybe his foot might be a little sore and there was extra precaution, who knows. If yao was given a calender and was told to circle the games on the back to backs he would prefer to play in, I'm pretty sure the spurs game,not the wolves wouldve been his choice or every players choice. Why play the wolves, a team you should beat vs the spurs, a team you might have trouble beating? Its a big picture type of thing.
     
  4. RocketForever

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    First of all, you know, I know and everyone knows it's the coach decision about which game to play, not Yao himself. Do you plan to argue the otherwise?

    And this is what Adelman said:

    “We felt the matchups against (Timberwolves center Darko) Milicic tomorrow will probably be better for him. (Against the Spurs) you have to go after (Tony) Parker and (Manu) Ginobili with pick-and-roll after pick-and-roll that this team throws at you.”

    Adelman's point is that, at this stage of his injury, Yao might hurt us more than helping us in the Spurs game. It's all about matchups. Adelman's decision hinged on the best matchup to win the games, not doing the best for Yao than for the team. What a lame and insulting accusation that you have against the Rockets organization.

    Whats next? Keep it coming.
     
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  5. wikiwiki

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    Is Darko's first language not English? 'Cause I'm pretty sure what Yao probably told him was about how he had the surgery and now he's limited to 24 minutes while his foot recovers---> translation "his foot is bothering him".

    It's not like Darko was a reporter grilling him on his return.
     
  6. AroundTheWorld

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    I saw when they talked to each other, it was before the jump ball - I figure that Yao told him "you're gonna get it anyway, I have a bad foot!". Just something to say so that it is not so embarrassing when you lose the jump ball to someone 6 inches shorter ;). Mountain/Mole Hill.
     
  7. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I am sure the doctors know that it's normal and probably part of the process.
     
  8. leebigez

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    Isnt Yao 100% healthy? He looks good moving to me. how many times was he involved in pick and roll vs the hornets? How much moving did he do vs the triangle in game 1? Yao Ming by all accounts have a minutes barrier to err on the side of caution. If you dont think yao clogging up the middle would helped the rockets alot, I dont know what to say. So what he gets caught in pnr? Yao has problems with the pnr anyway because he gets caught in the middle alot. In fact, he's terrible in space, but thats because he's large and slow.

    Look, just so we can move on from this, this supposed darko conversation may be nothing. I looked forward to him playing the spurs,then all of a sudden,yao is not playing. I understand the no b2b, but the rockets had been off for a couple of days and it a 40min flight to san antonio. Sa is also a team we might need tie breakers against in seeding and then this so called chatter with darko comes out, something just dont smell right. Dont make this sound like the rockets have been experts in handling injuries either. Remember in 08 when yao was dragging his leg mid season? They told us, oh, its just fatigue,he needs rest. Next thing you know,yao is in front of a micrrophone almost crying because his season is done. Remember in the playoffs vs la? Oh,its just a sprained foot. Next thing we hear, he needs the big z foot reshape. Anytime there are injuries with the rockets and especially yao or they sneak around,there is something they're hiding.
     
  9. wekko368

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    You're worried about seeding? Seriously? The Rockets were the only winless team and you're worrying about playoff implications...
     
  10. MadMax

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    not only do most here seem to expect that...it seems they all know more than the doctors who made the decisions with respect to his post-surgery playing time.

    unreal expectations all the way around.
     
  11. durvasa

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    Regarding Yao not playing against the Spurs, Adelman said that he wouldn't be as effective against the Spur's pick-and-roll game with Parker and Ginobili. He thought the Timberwolves matchup was better for him.
     
  12. Z-Ro&Trae

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    im starting to assume that the rockets organization treat their injured players like crap. this probably explains why they are always injured.
     
  13. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    oh course his foot is going to bother him.

    He had surgery on it. It's going to be sore and take time to gain strength.
     
  14. CXbby

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    You can argue about your definition of "dominant". Yao, with one foot, is still one of the top low post options in the league. See NBA.

    This is where your common sense fails you, Dr. Lee. Just because you are declared healthy enough to play, it doesn't mean you are healthy enough to play 35 minutes a game. Especially when it was a stress injury, Dr. Lee. By limiting his minutes and building him up slowly, it allows his newly constructed foot to gradually adjust to the stress level. If you push him to the limit off the bat, it doesn't mean his foot will break for sure, but the risks are higher. Unfortunately for you, the Rockets do plan to sign him long term, so taking those risks were inadvisable. I do agree, Dr. Lee, that eventually, before resigning him, we will have to see how he fairs without limitation. That day has not come yet. You could argue that the Rockets would be better off playing him 0 minutes than 24(you would be wrong). But to suggest we should simply run him into the ground and see if he holds up, as you would do to a broken truck, is simply medical malpractice. Oh, and Dr. Lee, common sense would suggest Michael Jordan's foot was never reconstructed. Or are all foot injuries alike?

    Dr. Lee, I am starting to wonder, where the hell did you get your medical degree from?


    I don't think you want Yao to fail. I just think that most of your arguments regarding Yao... and come to think of it... Brooks, Battier, Scola, Lowry, Morey, Les, statistics, medicine... are not very well thought out. To put it mildly.
     
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  15. Angkor Wat

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    Those stats are worthless because nobody plays the same way for the entire 36mins. I hate those PER stats.
     
  16. real_egal

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    Leebigez,

    I don't know which post of yours to quote, as a matter of fact, it doesn't really matter, because throughout all the years, your posts regarding Yao in every thread are all the same. Consistency is a rarity nowadays, but you have been keeping it up very nicely. There isn't flip-flop, or on and off bandwagon for you. I got to give you this.

    You have made it clear, everyday, that you think Yao is not good enough. I can respect that. However, from accusing some fans put Yao's interest above Rockets team, and you bragged about how you are the very definition of a "true Rockets fan", now you just went even further, you accused the coach and the organization put Yao's interest above team's interest, while you are the only standing soldier fighting for the organization against the evil Yao gang.

    Maybe you are in the opinion, that even last year, we should drag Yao onto the court with his heavy boot, so that you can point at him and proudly announce, "He's done. I told you so." That's your perceived "team first" approach - get rid of Yao at any cost. Now, after 15 months without basketball, you claim Yao's moving very well, Doctor's order was putting Yao's interest above the team, team's decision to follow Doctor's order was pleasing Yao at the cost of the team. Funny thing is, you've been criticizing Yao non-stop for his slowness among others (he IS slow), when he was healthy. But after such major surgery, all of the sudden, you "saw" him moving very well.

    Wake up, Sir. What you are doing here, has nothing to do with supporting the team, but just pushing your own agenda, whatever it may be.
     
  17. CXbby

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    Fine. Then use your eyes.

    Is he used in the high post vs. the low post?

    Is he scoring as effectively as before? Or as effective as one is expected to be at this stage of the recovery.

    It has nothing to do with stats, the guy was just flat out wrong about everything regarding the Yao situation.
     
  18. Angkor Wat

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    Well I won't say he's

    the same player. His offense is there

    but I don't think his conditioning is there

    yet. The only way we'll know if

    he's the same player is

    whenever he starts playing extended

    minutes.
     
  19. CXbby

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    Which is expected after a year long layoff. I think what is throwing a lot of people off is this 24 minute hard cap. If it was simply "bringing him back slowly" with no hard limit, it wouldn't be such a big deal.
     
  20. rocketsjudoka

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    Maybe Darko is just trying to let the Rockets know that he would like to get the hell out of Minnesota and is ready to back up Yao or take his place. ;)

    As far as playing Yao during the Spurs game if Yao got hurt chasing Parker all over the place on PNR's can you imagine how much this board would freak out about throwing him out there against a team he doesn't match up well against?
     

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