The first team that offers him he mle @ 5years and he's gone. That said I get the feeling all the players who have Anta contracts won't get traded.
Don't we still have Sura's expiring contract on the books for +$4M as well as Lucas' $8K? We could trade those as well.
If you are going to propose something, atleast make it a viable trade and not just names and salaries that don't match up. The only way mike miller arrives in houston is thru snyder, wells and francis. bonzi would have to be part of the deal.
he wasn't inferring that it was, and get Mike Miller over here NOW! True, Battier always guards the best on the other team, but Battier or not, the other teams top guy is gonna get his. I remember there was a big debate a day or so ago about who would hold Lebron. Everyone agreed it should be Battier but Bron still dropped 30 +. Ur not gonna stop the top guy period so why not give our offense a HUGE boost. Unless yall still think Luther is gonna turn into our permanent future lethal shooting guard.
I'm sure you are right about Bonzi getting paid, probably jumping ship, etc. But, my point is.........is Morey gonna trade away Bonzi when Adelman is the coach? Not happening dude. I don't see it. And that fact alone..........makes Mike Miller unattainable for us.......without giving them Shane back.........which is a lateral move. That's why I say I think one of the following scenarios is going to unfold. 1. Les tells Morey to go cheap.....in which case we find somebody to take Snyder off our hands for some cash and a draft pick or something. Then we either scour around and sign Nick Van Exel or somebody to a minimum contract. If this happens, we've got to get Brooks to rolling playing with the first unit, getting his handle down, his drive down, and his jumper smoothed out. 2a. Les gives the okay for Morey to go above cap and pay some lux tax. In which case, Bibby or Szczerbiak will be our targets. We will go get Bibby if Sac will take our expirings, plus Luther, James, cash and a pick. If we are going to pay the tax, and we can get Bibby, he makes the most sense. 2b. Les give the okay for Morey to go above the cap and pay some lux tax and we turn a deal for Wally for the same pieces as Bibby basically, but only if a guy like Cassell is turned loose and agrees to sign with us first. 2c. Les gives the okay for Morey to go above the cap and we are able to move James and Head plus cash and a pick for a guy like Luke Ridnour, or we are able to send Snyder, Head, and cash for Duhon, or possibly sending a team like Indiana expirings in Snyder, Francis, plus Luther Head in exchange for Tinsley or possibly a guy like Ridnour or Earl Watson. (The trade opportunities start to increase in possibility but decrease in terms of positive effect somewhere along in here.) How about Head, Francis, Snyder, and Novak and a future #1 for Arroya and Redick? You may be able to entice Orlando with that deal, just don't know. How much would it help us, don't know that either. I used to like Arroya when he was playing for Utah and Puerto Rico National team, haven't seen his game in the last year or so. Don't know what other deals could possibly happen. But I am convinced of a few things. 1. We need Battier. Without him our defense falls to mediocre or below average. No one else has the heart. So, he's untradable right now. 2. Our young PFs have too much upside right now. If we trade them, we are creating another weakness that we just fixed. Don't see us moving any of them. 3. Bonzi may be expiring and all that but the only way we trade him is if we have a prearranged agreement with the team we trade him to and to his agent that he will be released immediately and he will re-sign with us as soon as he serves out his month or whatever it is they have to do. Just don't think this is realistic. And don't see trading him as realistic either. 4. Can't see us trading Rafer, he's the only guy we got that can get us into the offense...........even if his shooting sucks, gotta have him until Brooks develops or something proven better comes along. Even if we can get a guy like Bibby, can't see us being willing to turn loose of Rafer, until we know Bibby fits and can run the show. 5. Can't see us trading Brooks. Adelman likes him too much. 6. Really can't see Les being willing to pay the tax. If all the above are true, that basically leaves us with two trades.....we trade Snyder for a trade exception to get below lux tax. And then we figure out what we can get out of Francis' contract, Luther, and possibly a future pick and cash. Would Chicago give us Duhon for Francis Luther, a pick and cash??? They're going nowhere. And Luther would be a cheap, poor replacement for Ben Gordon. Duhon is unrestricted so they are likely to lose him anyways. Probably a doable deal. But how much does it help us? Only other option that I can think of would possibly be James, Francis, Head, and a future pick for Andre Miller???? Would that be enough for Philly??? And would Andre Miller make it here? He has no range. But he can drive, dish, and finish. Just don't know.
I hate to rain on the Mike Miller parade, but here's some food for thought. The are his playoff numbers. Year Team Lg G Min Pts PPG FGM FGA FGP FTM FTA FTP 3PM 3PA 3PP ORB DRB TRB RPG AST APG STL BLK TO 2000-01 ORL NBA 4 112 48 12.0 19 48 .396 3 4 .750 7 18 .389 5 13 18 4.5 7 1.8 0 3 3 2001-02 ORL NBA 4 72 19 4.8 7 21 .333 4 4 1.000 1 8 .125 0 5 5 1.3 5 1.3 4 0 4 2003-04 MEM NBA 4 98 30 7.5 12 34 .353 1 3 .333 5 13 .385 0 12 12 3.0 3 0.8 5 0 5 2004-05 MEM NBA 4 110 48 12.0 18 37 .486 4 4 1.000 8 17 .471 0 10 10 2.5 11 2.8 0 3 5 2005-06 MEM NBA 4 107 34 8.5 12 30 .400 9 9 1.000 1 8 .125 1 14 15 3.8 7 1.8 2 2 8 Totals * 16 392 145 9.1 56 140 .400 12 15 .800 21 56 .375 5 40 45 2.8 26 1.6 9 6 17 I'm not saying he can't play,but 9.1 in the playoffs? He even played with t-mac at his best couldn't do anything. In memphis during the playoffs he couldn't do anything either.The playoffs is a different story people. Please don't get amazed by these inflated regular season numbers.
I would give up Bonzi + expiring contracts and even a 1st round pick for Miller in a split second. Period.
there's not much we can offer for miller than memphis would take. they are on a youth movement, but would they take Head, Novak, and a 1st? maybe throw in a 2nd? i would give up a 1st and those 2 players...and i am a huge luther fan. but mike would bring a versatility to this team that we need. Starters: Yao, Scola, Miller, Tmac, and Alston. Looks good on paper.... maybe it won't translate to the court though. stil, i would go for it
Mike Miller is the shooter we are missing? We already have Novak. Bonzi is taking Novak's minutes ...cause he's playing better. Only way to get Miller is to trade/bench Bonzi. Are we better off? Upgrading our PG spot (for a PG that can shoot) would have a bigger impact than getting Miller, IMO. But Frankly, Rafer has been playing pretty well and trading him seriously risks a chemistry prob.
They would take Bonzi in a heartbeat ...he's an expiring contract. Only question is would we give them Bonzi. He's a great player in the half court (ie playoffs this year.)
you have to give up bonzi..our offensive production would increase significantly with Miller. The only things bonzi would be better at are offensive rebounds, and post ups..Miller spreads the floor and unlike most of our team is actually lethal with an open shot.. Also, did someone really say the ANSWER is WALLY SCZERBIAK????? He makes 12.5 million next season..
if the grizz were that willing to give up gasol for a couple of scrubs plus a couple of late 1st round picks, i see no reason why the wouldn't take some combination of james/snyder/head/novak/hayes/picks for miller.
What's so great about 9 pts and 40% fg? Miller has done nothing in the playoffs. He's played with tracy in his prime and did nothing. He played with Gasol at his peak and did nothing. Why is this going to change in the playoffs?
Bonzi is a keeper. I say we need a decent PG more than Mike Miller. Rafer/Brooks is not good enough for playoff.
Bonzi is not a keeper, Bonzi is lookin out for Bonzi as is evident by his refusal to play last year. As stated earlier he's jumpin ship first contract that comes his way, more than likely next offseason, so why not trade him now and get some real value back!
they traded gasol for expiring contracts and draft picks. they wanted to cut salaries and didn't want longer contracts in return even if they would have gotten better players than what they've been getting. that's why they'll have no interest in trading for james, hayes or even head. if they don't want james (and that's a given in a trade for mike miller only) there's no way to get a package together that works under the salary cap and doesn't include bonzi. i'll repeat it again. head + novak wouldn't even be enough for mike conley's 3 mio rookie contract. something like snyder, hayes, head and novak would only get us brian cardinal because of salary cap reasons as well. there is one trade scenario that would work under the cba and would make sense for both parties. the rockets trade bonzi, snyder and francis to memphis for mike miller. or in other words 3 expiring contracts for mike miller. francis will be cut right away because he's done for the season and the grizzlies have no use for him. he could rehab and start his comeback with the rockets by signing another veteran's minimum contract. bonzi would take millers role so that the grizzlies won't be blown out by 30 points every game. snyder is a throw in. every other scenario is pipe dreaming and / or would hurt the rockets (by giving up battier, scola, hayes, landry or alston that is).
