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Mike Miller

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by derrick, Feb 8, 2008.

  1. GermanRoxFan

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    a good backup pg or a better starter would be nice, too, i might add.
     
  2. The Brian

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    not to mention that miller is a better player than korver is nearly all aspects.
     
  3. JoeBarelyCares

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    Since we are bringing back SF3 next year, and Memphis probably wouldn't take him in a deal because he is going to exercise his option and they already have 3 point guards and just bought out another, this is the only one I could come up with on the trade machine that would work:

    Mike Miller - $8.376 M

    for

    Bonzi - $2.248 (Expiring contract)
    Head - $1.122
    Hayes - $1.750
    Snyder - $2.358 (Expiring contract)

    Memphis gets another $6 million in cap space this summer, plus Head and Hayes as keepers.
     
  4. Purvis2Short

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    How about a starting line up of

    C- Yao/Mutombo/Scola
    PF-Scola/Landry/Hayes
    SF-Battier/Wells/Miller
    SG-Miller/Wells/James
    Point Forward-T-Mac/Alson/Brooks
    Plus we can add some D-Leaguers

    Good offensive lineup that would create crazy match up problems....team defense and more length would stop the quicker point guards...its not like we're playing CP3 and Deron on a nightly basis...plus when we play them were not stopping them with our current lineup. No point guard outside of Derrick Fischer can contain T-Mac.

    We trade....Snyder/Head/Novak/1st rounder/cash for Miller
     
  5. professorjay

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    There's no doubt there's a trade off on defense between Miller and Battier. But Miller is also shooting > 40% from 3, > 50% fg, and > 80% ft, at 17 ppg. Pretty damn efficient for a shooter. That would be a pretty significant trade off on offense too.
     
  6. WNBA

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    Bonzi >Miller in playoff
     
  7. RKREBORN

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    I am speechless, without speech. Been on a long vacation, like several years? Shooting is not a problem? Wow, just wow.
     
  9. Tfor3

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    we already are above average :rolleyes: , but I guess you want a mike miller to counter kyle korver.......just like the suns/shaq counter Gasol/Fakers.
     
  10. drich

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    you bring mike miller off the bench for a real scoring threat and go with whatever is going good at the end of the game
     
  11. wireonfire

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    Mac and Miller were best friends when they were on the Magic.
     
  12. Yetti

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    Miller sounds good to me and we could target the next off season to get us a playmaking Point Guard. However by then Rafer may have improved so much that we will keep him as our starter. :p
    By the way The Coach needs to lay of having Brooks being a Shooting Guard and let him drive to the basket and pass the ball to an open player, for a score. He needs to develop ball distribution rather than getting 1 0f 8 three pointers!! :p
     
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  14. jopatmc

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    Mmmmmmmmmm,

    Been thinking. Miller is better than Korver. But I actually think Wally S. is the guy for us. First of all, we ain't gonna get Miller without bettering somebody else's offer.........substantially..........because we are in their division. Memphis don't want to trade Miller to us. They'd much rather trade him out of the conference or at least out of the division. The only way we get him is if everything else falls through. Sure, he'd fit great with McGrady and Shane. But I just don't see it happening. Second reason being, Adelman is not going to part with Bonzi, especially when he has just got Bonzi back to playing the way he is supposed to play, which is to say, attacking the rim.

    If we are going to trade for a 2/3 swing shooter, it's got to be somebody like Wally S. And I think he makes more sense.......on both ends of the court.......than Mike Miller. Wally is a much better defender........much better. Miller CAN'T play D. Wally can........and would play D on a contender. And Wally is just as prolific shooting from the perimeter, not quite as high a volume of 3 point shots, but just as prolific, just as lethal, and he's better in the midrange and finishing at the rim. The rest of their stats are virtually identical.

    If.....................Seattle would take Mike James, Francis, Head, Snyder, with or without a pick............I'd prefer to do that deal. The cost to Les is he is locked into the luxury tax. It involves committing to the salary and not moving Snyder out to get us below the lux tax. It also is predicated on us being able to pick up a point guard to give us some balance. If we move out James and Luther, it leaves us with only Rafer and Brooks as our points. Of course, in my opinion, this is the only two points we have had all season anyways. With Francis being hurt, James and Head have proven......for the last time.....that they are not facilitators and can only be successful playing off another facilitator/playmaker. So, I don't consider them points. We'd have to be able to sign somebody like Cassell or somebody else that would be available........who that would be, I don't know.

    Szczerbiak's contract also makes sense for us in that it expires next year, therefore becoming a very tradable commodity. We may give up some luxury tax dollars this year, but we could easily break out of that contract next year to get under if we had to, or we could re-sign Wally if need be and not use our MLE, since he would essentially represent our MLE for next season. He could also be used to parlay into a deal for a player like Redd, Vince Carter, or Kirilenko if their respective teams have been unable to move them and they are still looking to shed salary.

    Of course, this is all predicated on what Sacramento does. To me, Sacramento is the key to the trade deadline right now. They are on the brink, on the cusp of the playoffs, but everybody knows they ain't contenders. They could concievably dump Bibby and Artest for mostly expirings and create enough cap room to make a serious run at Gilbert, Marion or some other top name free agent next summer. Or are they gonna keep clutching Bibby until next year when he is expiring and either move him then or play out the contract? In my opinion, I think they are gonna fold 'em.......this year.....and if they can get the right deal for Bibby, meaning essentially expirings, possibly a pick, and a young player or a couple picks, then I would bet they do it. It saves them the most money and it lets them pursue the rebuild more vigorously and sooner. WHEN.........they decide to pull the plug on Bibby.......then that is the guy we should go for......because we are weakest at the point guard position, we need the shot stroke at that position worse than any other.

    There are at least three major keys to us making a major move:

    1. Les has to commit to the luxury tax.......at least for this season.
    2. Trade has to involve Mike James' contract and not Shane Battier's contract. Trading Battier would be a lateral move, we may pick up a little O but our D would suffer. And we ain't moving Bonzi. So, that essentially leaves us with Francis and Snyder as expirings and Luther as a value asset to throw in that has a low salary. I don't see us moving any of our bigs.
    3. We have to be able to find point guard help. So either we have to trade for a point guard or we've got to be able to pick up a point guard from somewheres after we make a deal and deplete ourselves at the point. Or Adelman has to stick Brooks in with the starters and let the kid roll until he gets his shot down and learns how to make his way on the floor and Rafer can then be a viable backup. But one way or the other, we've got to get help with our point guard shooting. It's our biggest weakness.
     
  15. supastevefoo

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    Exactly. Bonzi knows this is going to be his last chance to get a big contract so you know he will come up BIG.
     
  16. BrooksBall

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    A high-percentage shooter that can actually stay on the court (ahem... Novak) wouldn't hurt either.

    I agree that a good PG is our biggest need but if we can't get one, Mike Miller would certainly be a nice upgrade.
     
  17. t-mac4bigmac

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    Someone like Wally Sczerbiak is a strict stand-still shooter. He also has slow foot-speed, which makes him only an average defender. Mike Miller has all-star talent. I'm really impressed about how this guy plays; not only does he spot up well for open shots, but he also is good at creating his own shot. His defense is suspect, but if an offensive talent like him is available, the Rockets should take a shot at getting him.

    Their is no way that any team will want to take Mike James' contract. He could be on this team for awhile, unless a miracle happens. I propose Bonzi Wells, Snyder, and Novak for Mike Miller. Wells is equivalent to Miller talent-wise. Novak is a young player who can shoot, which should be attractive to a team trying to rebuild. And all three players have expiring contracts.
     
  18. jopatmc

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    Do you really think we are going to part with Bonzi????



    I don't.
     
  19. hooroo

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    How tight is tight? Are they this tight?
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  20. t-mac4bigmac

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    I'm just looking in the long-run. I really think that Bonzi just wants to get paid big next off-season and go to another team. He might help us during the playoffs, but one thing I don't like about him is that he'll take nights off occasionally, as seen through his long stretches of jumpshots rather than attacking the basket. I think making a swap of him for Miller would help our consistency and give us a solid third-scorer.
     

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