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Mike James loses Wolves starting job

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Clutch, Feb 12, 2007.

  1. jlwee

    jlwee Member

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    If the rockets traded for Mike James, I will see James coming from the bench(average 30mpg) and replaces Bonzi as the 3rd scorer. Then Bonzi will be reluctant and traded for a big.

    Question now is does the team still need another big man since reports already stating yao will be coming back soon.......
     
  2. thewaterox

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    The Rockets and Mike James are like a one night stand that you want to marry. It was a short time thing that has you wondering what might have been. Will MJ come back to Houston? I'd take him because it's a low risk move that can pay off big.

    Alston is a good PG but his not a 30+ min a night option IMHO.
     
  3. Pat

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    I agree 100%. Something is working with Rafer at the point. Maybe something as simple as his ability to get out of the way! I felt exactly the opposite about Mike James. He played fine, but I didn't like how the team played well when he was in.
     
  4. Tom Bombadillo

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    Hmm sounds like you dont like what skips been doing here lately. From a spectators standpoint, it seems like Rafer, Tmac and the rest of the team are starting to gel more than ever. I personaly think Mike James is a selfish player and person. The differences between these guys is that Mike James looks to get a basket or an assist, I dont think Rafer cares, hes most concerned about organizing and running the team. If that means scoring or distributing he does his best to do it. I am for getting Mike James if he comes cheap and off the bench for 25 minutes a night.
     
  5. angryman

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    I don't understand the Mike James love.

    Teams like Raptors, Wolves don't want him, why should the Rockets with a much better record do?
     
  6. KDavis

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    Just say no to Mike James!

    Id rather have Chucky Atkins. I believe he is a team player. Unlike Queen James
     
  7. A_3PO

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    I've blasted Rafer as much as anyone. I'm not a Rafer supporter and it was a mistake to go into this season so weak at PG.

    That said, Mike James wasn't the answer. If you compare just their skillsets and stats, MJ looks very good. Problem is, you get much more than his skillset when Mike James is on your team. I'm glad he's not here, which is his own fault for being such a moody flake.

    It's hard to defend Rafer, IMO, other than to just say "look at our record". It's also hard to defend a nutcase like MJ, unless you completely overlook the heavy baggage he brings. There is a reason he has bounced around so much and why the Rockets didn't want him as starting PG last season. I hope the door didn't hit him on the way out.
     
  8. dfwrox

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    While you all talk about wanting Mike James. Consider this, he has a TRADE KICKER protection, which means 15% increase in his salary.

    Do you still want him now???
     
  9. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    I've always wondered about the "kicker." Can James waive it if he wants to go to a particular team? Is it really a 15% increase in his contract? That would be a kick and a half.
     
  10. IC2000

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    HELL NO!!!
     
  11. dfwrox

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    I googled on him and here is from wikipedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_James
     
  12. R0ckets03

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    I'd much rather have the Franchise back.
     
  13. theWIGMAN

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    CD made it clear the Rockets didn't want to give him the kicker and/or player option. Said something like not even Dream got that. So why would they want his contract now?

    I think MJ is bonafide cancer material - the first name isn't "Mike." It's "Me" - as in Me James. Only the Twolves were dumb enough to give him the trade kicker & the player option. What can Me James do with a trade kicker? He can be a selfish b*stard and not care about the team or he can even tank games ... thereby forcing the team to trade him, just so he can make 15% more. So it's clear the dude was and is after the money. My guess is he's not really all that disappointed at the thought of having to play elsewhere - it means he'll be gettin' a raise.

    I suspect he set it up to work that way all along. Think about it: if the trade kicker remains in the contract, then every year he could suck or be a cancer, the team will be forced to trade him ... and he keeps making more money (15% each time traded) --- and not have to do a damn thing to earn it! In fact, playing hard exposes you to injury & risk - while tanking it, on the other hand, may actually reward you with a raise upon trade. No financial incentive to play ... Lot$$$ of incentive to suck. So it's not likely he would waive that juicy trade kicker. The only time you can expect Me James to play hard will be on year 4 of the deal, that's when he'll suddenly play better then exercise the player option for free agency so he can get mo' money.

    You gotta respect MJ's game when it comes to cutthroat business (he knows what he wants and he knows how to get it) .... but no, I don't want that kinda game on the Rockets. I want my team thinking win first. I want serious basketball playas not those other kind of playas. Me James, please stay away.
     
  14. baller4life315

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    Those of you trying to argue that James is a selfish basketball player simply don't know what you're talking about. However, I'm done refuting this argument since I no longer feel the need to stupify myself by bringing myself down to the level of those people who don't even watch a player perform yet feel the need to give their baseless negative evaluations of them.
     
  15. theWIGMAN

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    I agree. Nothing you should need to refute. Mike James right now is not a selfish basketball player. Me James, however, is a greedy/selfish businessman who worked over the Twolve's front office. He cares about his financial interest more than his team's basketball interest. The coach hopes he'll be more "aggressive" and look to score more -- apparently, he is quite unselfish in terms of of how he's playing basketball, cuz Mike James ain't lookin' to score on the court. Me James is lookin' to score at the bank. The unselfish basketball player Mike James is probably OK with Randy Foy taking his job. The selfish businessman Me James is probably very happy with the prospects of getting a raise if he's traded. Selfishness isn't defined by how you play basketball. It's about personal priorities.
     
  16. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    This incarnation of the Rockets simply doesn't need a Mike James. No he isn't selfish. But Wolverine does what he does best, kills bad guys (and not much else)... Mike James does what he does best, scores in bunches (and not much else).

    Van Gundy teams are notorious for long scoring droughts. Not this one. Even without Yao the team has managed to have someone step up and provide offense. Those 5-7 minute stretches of no field goals are over.

    A change up at the point might help (especially those nights when Rafer struggles) but I don't think James is that guy anymore. And its too risky to mess with Alston's confidence if all we get is James, another inconsistent shooter.
     
  17. baller4life315

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    .....thank you for the example of why i'm done responding to such arguments.

    It's like telling a little kid there's no Santa Clause. In this case the little kid's gonna go by what EVERYBODY else is saying and defying any form of rationality with his argument that he actually does exist instead of facing reality or making their own assumptions.
     
  18. JoeBarelyCares

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    Yes, James can waive the trade exception. At this point, you would think he might agree to waive it to come to Houston, but with James, unpredictability is a certainty.
     
  19. jopatmc

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    I think a Mike James for James Posey swap would make some sense for both Minny and Miami.
     
  20. Rockets Dynasty

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    I just love how earlier when I and others said Alston was better than James we were hammered for it.
     

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