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Mike James 36 pts

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by macfan, Nov 13, 2005.

  1. Hakeem06

    Hakeem06 Member

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    you are actually comparing mike james to michael jordan and wilt chamberlain????? unbelievable.


    i'm speaking on the course of the season. i guess i should have said that from the start. yeah, i agree ride the hot hand. but on the season, he's taking more shots than bosh and rose. that's dumb, and isn't going to win a lot of games. hence the raptors record.



    still can't comprehend comparing mike james to MJ and Wilt though....that's just befudling.
     
  2. tigermission1

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    Could we blame the trade on adeelsiddiqui?
     
  3. Mr. Brightside

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    Mike James is gonna teach the Rockets the biggest lesson of their lives. Jeff Van Idiot's trade for Reefer Alston will be one of the all time lop sided trades in NBA history.
     
  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    your comprehension skills are unbelieavably bad. Show me where I said Mike James is as good as Jordan and Wilt. All I'm saying is that criticizing a guy after he shot 67%, scored 36 points on 21 shots, hit 6 of 10 threes, is unbelievably ridiculous. Because he didn't pass the ball to Chris Bosh more, whom by the way had 21 points himself.
     
  5. Bookit

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    [Q]you are actually comparing mike james to michael jordan and wilt chamberlain????? unbelievable[/Q]

    Where in his post did he compare Mike James with Jordan or Chamberlain?
     
  6. Hakeem06

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    right there.


    there is a HUGE difference in criticizing mike james for taking too many shots and criticizing jordan for taking too many shots. jordan is arguably the greatest player ever, he should be taking a lot shots. james is a role player, and has two other players on his team who have either been an all-star (rose) or is going to be one for years and years to come (bosh).
     
  7. pippendagimp

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    I loved Mike James on the Rox and was not happy at all when he got shipped out for Alston in return. That being said, Van Gundy is still an effective coach and quasi-GM. He has brought other players here who have fit in. Barry, Head, Deke just to name a few. Obviously he's not perfect, but I wouldn't go so far as to call him an idiot. The worst thing about the Alston trade is his long contract. We are not gonna be able to dump him on anyone unless his scoring production starts to miraculously pick up and he takes a crash course in playing defense.
     
  8. pippendagimp

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    Hey Brightside, I just realized that you were likely being sarcastic there....my bad dude...

    I still wish the trade had never happened though :mad:
     
  9. tigermission1

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    I didn't like the trade either from the minute I heard of it, but was willing to give RA a chance to win me over. MJ provided much needed offense, and we still need it apparently since neither Swift, RA, nor DA are doing a great job putting the ball in the basket.
     
  10. bladeage

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    even if MJ scores 50 it wont help that team. not as long as jalen rose is on that team.
     
  11. reggietodd

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    We goofed on this trade from a basketball standpoint. But from a business standpoint it was a good trade. If James had stayed and had a good year which I believe he would have since he now knew the system, then his contract demands would be too high for us to cover and we'd lose him anyways.

    It was a business decision, unfortunately.
     
  12. KellyDwyer

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    I don't think that was the case. Mike James is Mike James, people respect his ability to put the ball in the hole, but diminuitive scoring guards like him are a dime a dozen -- he wasn't going to be involved in any bidding war next summer.

    The trade was a necessary evil for both teams. Rockets fans have every right to still want to see Mike in red and white but this was a trade both teams needed to make, and they're both better off for it.
     
  13. purplefever

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    If you guys had watched the game, you'd know that James played most of his time at the off-guard, with Calderon running the point - logging 12 assists.

    While I thoroughly agree that your starting PG shouldn't be taking so many shots, Jalen Rose and Morris Peterson were a combined 5-20 and were not a good passing option. Both Villanueva and Bosh had nice games inside, with James being the only major contributor from the perimiter.

    Both he and Alston are still getting acclimated to their new teams. James has behaved so far this season, for the most part. He plays worse when Jalen is on the floor - the whole team seems to play more selfishly - but MJ has been a pretty good contributor otherswise. No one expects him to be Jason Kidd.

    Sometimes when a guy gets hot, you ride it, especially when others are cold.
     
  14. MrButtocks

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    Mike James for the MLE next summer?

    I'm totally kidding. I watched some of the game tonight and it reminded me of all the games last year where Mike would just go off. I really liked the energy he brought off the bench for us and he brought it tonight. If a guy gets hot sometimes you just have to let him stroke it. Last year Bob Sura dropped a career high against the nets. Was he just playing selfishly because he didn't fulfill his defined role of dumping it to Tmac and Yao? Nope, he just carried us to a win that night. It happens sometimes.
     
  15. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    exactly, I was comparing the criticism.

    BTW, I thought the Rockets made a good deal picking up Alston because JVG needs more of a traditional point to run his system. I just think Mike James gets some undeserved criticism at times.
     
  16. coolweather

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    and did they win?
     
  17. SamFisher

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    LOL, yeah, I mean a max player/superstar like Mike James who crushes your salary cap to the tune of 3 per should be responsible for leading his team to victory- I mean, I don't know about you, but I think games like this are SERIOUSLY injuring his chances of getting into Springfield someday. Right now, I don't know if I'd vote for him.

    What is it with some of you people and Mike James? It's like he killed your dog while doing your wives. He is the only rotation player in the league making chump change who can shoot 65% from the field and be roundly condemned for it.
     
  18. SamFisher

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    No, it's only a problem when shorter people shoot - then it becomesclear that he's a "shoot first" player, and I'm sure he "lacks fundamentals". I mean some distinguished hoops minds on this board still criticize Iverson for shooting too much even though the team is built around him shooting and he tosses in bunches of assists.

    Of course, it doesn't take a degree in math to know that a 40% three point shooter is a more efficient scorer than a 50% two point shooter, but good luck trying to convince this board of that.
     
  19. Desert Scar

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    Agree with both you totally.

    No, there were plenty of idiots blaming Mike James for out 1st round exit and syaing he had no place.

    I wouldn't say dime and dozen. He will get most or all of an MLE contract, those are not dime a dozen players.

    I think trade made sense because: 1) Alston has the tools to be a better starting PG on the Rockets, 2) good chance Luther head can be that tweener scorer liek James, 3) James contract was to be up. I certainly think Toronto is plenty happy with the trade too.

    But I love to have James as the 7th man on the Rockets, it just wasn't as important as having a better fitting starting PG. Too bad we couldn't have given up Wesley or something else for Alston and kept James as 6th, 7th man, we would have been a much better team, particularly with Tmac out, if we could have done so.
     
  20. Desert Scar

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    To some court tension between Tmac and him under very frustrating circumstances for the whole team is the equivalent. I guess such an affront to Tmac (god) in the heat of the battle constitutes forgetting all the games (playoffs included) he was a key cog in our victories. Some people need wives and dogs I guess to get perspective, hopefully they stick to doing the former.
     

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