Mike Huckabee and Jon Stewart talk Gay Marriage 12.9.08 Daily Show

I've decided that I think the government should not recognize marriages at all. I think that marriage should be a religous/personal matter, and that the government should just use legal union for everything. Any two people should be able to get that union, because homosexuals are supposed to have equal rights, whether you think they are right or wrong.

I've beaten this idea through my head a lot. I don't agree with homosexuality, but that doesn't mean they don't deserve equal rights.

 

andymoon, told ya.

 

I have often wondered why the government is even in the business of marriage, it is a religous matter.

DD

 

Isn't gluttony a sin?



DD

 

I am so damned.

 

I understand the first part, but I don't vote to impose my values on anyone else through legislation.

The second part about the country being formed on Judeo-Christian values isn't really true.

It was formed based on Greek and Roman models of democracy and republics.

I'm not going to make the claim that most of the founding fathers were religious. But here is something that Thomas Jefferson said about the roll of religion in govt.

This is what Thomas Jefferson said about it in the treaty of Tripoli.

Read the first sentence.

 

Actually marriage has not always been the legal union between a man and a woman. In the early days of the bible it was allowed to have more than one wife. The definition of marriage has evolved over time, and should continue to evolve. Also wanting to deny a group of people the same rights as others because you don't want to change a definition doesn't seem like a good argument.

Legislating that same sex marriage isn't allowed is forcing one group of people to not have the same privileges as another group.

As for being forced to recognize polygamy or whatever else, that isn't true. Though, honestly it wouldn't bother me. A certain percentage of people aren't born polygamists the way they are born homosexual.

This is all stuff that Stewart points out in the clip

 

Your first statement is just false. Would you vote to impose laws enforcing environmental regulations based on the science of climate change?

The second part about the country being formed on Judeo-Christian values actually is true. Prayer was required for service in the first Continental Army. They weren't praying to Buddah. Thanksgiving is a national holiday based on giving thanks to God.

Your point about Thomas Jefferson's position is valid and strong, but George Washington had some official documents that would seem to take the oposing view.

 

I agree that the whole definition arguement is a little silly. It is an attempt to avoid being politically incorrect and admitting that we might have beliefs that could offend people.

 

Take heart, ask for forgiveness....



DD

 

that would affect the health of living beings on this earth. two men or two women marrying each other does not affect anyone outside of those two.

 

As I said just a few posts ago, there is no genetic basis for polygamy or bestiality, but there is a LOT of evidence that shows that homosexuality is genetic. If it is genetic, it is a part of the human experience. If this is the case, homosexuals deserve the same human and civil rights that the rest of us enjoy, period.

 

I know you didn't mean it that way, but it doesn't matter if it is or isn't the case, they should get the same rights as any human being.

DD

 

It is the case, which makes any possible argument to the contrary moot.

 

Yes, but your sentence mentioned "If it is the case" when it doesn't matter if it is the case, that is irrelevent, because everyone is human already.

DD

 

Whatever your point of view, each position is an opinion.

Many Christians believe that homosexuality is corrosive to our society and culture: therefore, they are the same.

 

I think black men marrying white women is corrosive to our society and culture. Also, I don't think Jews should be allowed to marry each other because they are evil and drink the blood of Christian babies.

Should my opinion be considered when we determine marriage laws?

 

i think hot women should only be able to marry slightly overweight guys with a beer gut. anything other than that is corrosive to our society and culture.

 

I understand that prayer happens still when congress if called to session, I don't doubt that the continental army had to pray as well. But including vestiges of commonly held beliefs is different than founding a nation and laws based on a religion.

 

Congratulations. You live in a country where such misguided beliefs will not cause you to be inprisoned or put to death. Of course, you are free to vote as you please. Good luck winning an election with those beliefs.

Those are obviously not my values. I doubt I will vote that way. Those beliefs are found nowhere in any Bible I have ever studied.