Give me Peja for the Rockets. He could be the 3rd option and shooter to stretch the defense that this team needs more than anything(and the 2nd scoring option they need right now without Yao). If he is being shopped at a discount, the Rockets need to be in on that action. I'd take either one of Bibby/Peja but I'm thinking Peja would be cheaper to trade for. I understand he is moody etc, but this is a gamble worth taking in my opinion. Of course, with Van Gundy and his beliefs on defense this is probably wishful thinking on my part.
peja can't play any D at all, even by sac-town standards, and he expects other players to create for him to get a shot off. who is going to create for him if we don't have a point guard? i'm down with trading for mike bibby, as long as it's either head or skip (not both). bibby makes a lot but he's also worth it.
Bibby fits this team way more than Peja does. This deal may include the Knicks sending Marbury to Sac Town and Sac sending us KT or Skinner while we send out expirings to NY and maybe a pick or LH or both to Sacramento. Knicks get cap relief Sac gets a playmaker, and either a pick or a young player with potential, along with moving out their trash We get our 3rd option. We'd also have to sign Sprewell to have a starting 5 of Bibby Spree TMac Yao Swift and a bench of Lucas DA? (if he isn't moved) Rybo Deke Howard Skinner/KT Baxter Davis Graham (gotta bring back somebody) Barry
i would think that you'd have to take back williamson or thomas as part of any deal for bibby. at least with bibby you have someone who can make a pass into the post for yao. correct me if i'm wrong, but what happened to bibby's D? it used to be good back in the webber/vlade days, now its just pathetic.
Uh, this guy named Tracy McGrady would create open looks for him right now(replace Wesley or Head in the starting lineup with Peja, and one comes off the bench if they aren't a part of a trade). Then when Yao gets back/long term you have two stars getting double teams night in night out and a 3 point marksmen to make people pay for that. I also said that it is unlikely because of Van Gundy's beliefs on defense and Peja's defense, but a coach like Van Gundy needs to get offensive minded players he can mold into solid team defenders because his strength is coaching defense. Also, I've said this multiple times but when Yao/Tracy are healthy this team does not need a traditional PG. You do not want to take the ball out of your superstars hands. They need players who can hit open shots created by double teams on T-Mac/Yao along with having the dimension to put the ball on the floor on occasion, which is their achilles heel right now(they are shooting like 41.5% from the floor as a team, which is horrible). Right now they could use a point guard because without Yao they need someone to take the playmaking responsibility off T-Mac shoulders, but in the longrun with the way this team is constructed, a traditional PG is not a must have by any means.
for them to hand over one of the best pg's to a team in the same conference sounds too good to be true. i wouldn't think they'd want to make us that strong because with bibby that's what would happen. hope it's true.
Why would the Kings trade Bibby? He's still young enough to be the center of a rebuilding effort. In Baron Davis and Vince Carter's cases, they were both oft injured guys who the teams wanted to unload. Oh well, stranger things have happened. As has been stated numerous times, Mike Bibby would be the perfect fit for this team at point guard moreso than anyone else in the league. Great shooter and great on the pick and roll.
Why would the Kings trade Bibby? Because we said so. If the guys that broadcast the Kings' games are any indicator, Bibby and Miller will be the last two standing. They've never said it directly, but occassionally they lay it between the lines...Adelman, Peja, SAR, KT and Bonzi will all be gone before Bibby and Miller. Those two, Kevin Martin & Francisco Garcia are the Kings' core as I see it.
I don't see it either because Bibby's strengths will never be reflected in the stat sheet and he will never be over paid. Miller is one of the only big men left who can really run their offense. both those guys would be harder to replace than Peja, who is one of the best shooters in the league, but you can find shooters. Its hard to find big men who can pass and rebound and pgs who can shoot yet are unselfish.
while i agree this team may not require a traditional pg, getting bibby would be much better than peja. peja would not fit on this team because: 1- horrendous defense. when sac-town fans call you out for a lack of D, that is bad. his D can only get worse, not better. 2- if he comes in and plays the 3, you have to move tmac back to the 2. keeping him at the 3 allows us to exploit matchups. 3- we shouldn't have to rely on tmac to score and to create for others. 4- bibby can both create for others (which could help establish swift as a legitimate 4th option with some francis-cato alley-oops) further punishing teams for any double teams, and he can knock down the open shot. 5- peja is old. the last thing we need on this team is another geezer who can't d up.
I would waaayyy rather have Bibby, but let me say this: Everybody said that T-mac couldnt play D either when he came here and somehow Gundy got him to play. My question is, could Gundy do the same for Peja?
1) Jeff Van Gundy is a defensive minded coach, if anyone can get a weak defender to play D, it's him. 2) This would be my biggest reservation about Peja, but I think with all the freedom coaches have with defense nowadays, Jeff could make it work. 3) Right now let Rafer do the penetrating then, that is one thing he is good at. When Yao returns, you can work inside out with Yao to Peja, or T-Mac on a drive, or Rafer on a drive, etc. Plus, T-Mac and Yao would face more single coverage because teams would have no desire to double off of Peja. 4) I agree with this. Bibby is a better basketball player, but he also will be tougher to acquire. I get the feeling Sacto may just take whatever they can get for Peja than let him walk for nothing at the end of the season. 5. Peja is 28 and will be 29 in June. Bibby is one year younger. Neither are geezers, and have plenty of basketball in front of them if they stay healthy.
