1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Midterms

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Jul 16, 2010.

  1. Steve_Francis_rules

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 1999
    Messages:
    8,467
    Likes Received:
    300
    I didn't know that the last 8+ years counted as "lately."
     
  2. basso

    basso Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    33,275
    Likes Received:
    9,244
    Snake Symbolism:

    The timber rattlesnake and eastern diamond back rattle snake both populate the geographical areas of the original thirteen colonies. Their use as a symbol of the American colonies can be traced back to the publications of Benjamin Franklin. In 1751, he made the first reference to the rattlesnake in a satirical commentary published in his Pennsylvania Gazette. It had been the policy of Britain to send convicted criminals to America, so Franklin suggested that they thank the British by sending rattlesnakes to England.[1]


    Benjamin Franklin's "Join, or Die" cartoon
    In 1754, during the French and Indian War, Franklin published his famous woodcut of a snake cut into eight sections. It represented the colonies, with New England joined together as the head and South Carolina as the tail, following their order along the coast. Under the snake was the message "Join, or Die". This was the first political cartoon published in an American newspaper.
    As the American Revolution grew, the snake began to see more use as a symbol of the colonies. In 1774, Paul Revere added it to the title of his paper, the Massachusetts Spy, as a snake joined to fight a British dragon.[2] In December 1775, Benjamin Franklin published an essay in the Pennsylvania Journal under the pseudonym American Guesser in which he suggested that the rattlesnake was a good symbol for the American spirit:
    "I recollected that her eye excelled in brightness, that of any other animal, and that she has no eye-lids—She may therefore be esteemed an emblem of vigilance.—She never begins an attack, nor, when once engaged, ever surrenders: She is therefore an emblem of magnanimity and true courage.—As if anxious to prevent all pretensions of quarreling with her, the weapons with which nature has furnished her, she conceals in the roof of her mouth, so that, to those who are unacquainted with her, she appears to be a most defenseless animal; and even when those weapons are shewn and extended for her defense, they appear weak and contemptible; but their wounds however small, are decisive and fatal:—Conscious of this, she never wounds till she has generously given notice, even to her enemy, and cautioned him against the danger of stepping on her.—Was I wrong, Sir, in thinking this a strong picture of the temper and conduct of America?"[3]
     
  3. Steve_Francis_rules

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 1999
    Messages:
    8,467
    Likes Received:
    300
    You must have an insane amount of time on your hands. Do you have a job?

    It is a full time job for literally thousands of people to do all the safety investigations and inspections that you seem to think every individual should be able to handle on his/her own.
     
  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,762
    Likes Received:
    3,699

    what does the other picture represent?, wow such hatred from basso
     
  5. weslinder

    weslinder Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2006
    Messages:
    12,983
    Likes Received:
    291
    The original colonies. It came from Benjamin Franklin's suggestion to send rattlesnakes to England in response to prisoners being sent to America. And this drawing:

    [​IMG]
     
  6. basso

    basso Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    33,275
    Likes Received:
    9,244
    Brother, can you spare a dime?

    A man gets on his knees next to a car carrying U.S. President Barack Obama as he pulls away from Valois restaurant in Chicago, October 31, 2010.
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,762
    Likes Received:
    3,699

    such a hateful picture, I don't care where it came from, if you're going to use as people's "choice"
     
  8. basso

    basso Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    33,275
    Likes Received:
    9,244
    what's hateful about reality?
     
  9. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,762
    Likes Received:
    3,699

    so homelessness is Obama's fault, thanks
     
  10. GladiatoRowdy

    GladiatoRowdy Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2002
    Messages:
    16,596
    Likes Received:
    496
    And. of course, the message behind the snake being cut into many pieces is that if we don't get together to solve the nation's problems, the nation will die. The key phrase there is "get together," which is not what the GOP is trying to do in any way, shape, or form.
     
  11. basso

    basso Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    33,275
    Likes Received:
    9,244
    no.



    ..
     
  12. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,762
    Likes Received:
    3,699
    now if someone posts a picture of some of the racists at tea party events to represent that choic you would be spazzing out.
     
  13. basso

    basso Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    33,275
    Likes Received:
    9,244
    i'm not seeing the racial angle to this discussion- could you enlighten me?
     
  14. tallanvor

    tallanvor Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2007
    Messages:
    18,657
    Likes Received:
    11,688
    Now that is hateful. Calling a person who disagrees with your political view a "racist".
     
  15. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,762
    Likes Received:
    3,699
    no, that's not what I said, but nice to try and bait an argument, I said if I showed racists at tea party events it would be equivalent to the hatefulness of what your picture depicts as an obama choice, a homeless man

    or perhaps you think that's funny
     
  16. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,762
    Likes Received:
    3,699

    follow the discussion or move along
     
  17. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    48,984
    Likes Received:
    1,445
    you can't even comprehend a one sentence post, yet you feel comfortable with people inspecting their own food and drugs to make sure they're safe?
     
  18. rimbaud

    rimbaud Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 1999
    Messages:
    8,169
    Likes Received:
    676
    So the choice we have tomorrow is to pick between a Revolutionary marine flag used in a war against England and a begging homeless man?

    Those are strange views you have. Personally, I don't see how we could be a colony engaged in a war for autonomy OR a beggar. We, as a country, exist and we, being part of a country, have a home. Also, we have a lot of money so we don't really need to beg. Finally, I don't think England has much
    power over us.

    Really I would rather not vote based on two random pictures. Seems stupid.
     
  19. da Whopper

    da Whopper Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2010
    Messages:
    474
    Likes Received:
    22
    Liberals being liberals.
     
  20. basso

    basso Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    33,275
    Likes Received:
    9,244
    the choice between standing up or kneeling down.

    or, phrased differently, ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country.
     
    #940 basso, Nov 1, 2010
    Last edited: Nov 1, 2010

Share This Page