I don't think you quite get it. The Republican/conservative base has VERY few decent candidates. The Republican base is not fractured. Its shattered. McCain? Palin? Steele? Rush? Beck? Hannity? The Republican party is the party of "No" ... "No direction". The Republican base should be getting stomped into a mudhole. At this point, the American people are starting to believe that nothing should be done instead of these continuous policies that keep this country in turmoil. The American people wanted change. We are now entering 10 years of the same politics. Goodbye incumbents!
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That seems to be the Democrat excuse that its a year of anti-incumbency. RCP doesn't have many Republican Senate seats in trouble (2 toss ups and that's it ), so I am not buying it. You can't keep being against the American people on every issue and expect them not to retaliate. Also the recovery seems less and less plausible every day.
Pretty sad that you and your ilk are hoping for the country to go to **** (or is that obstructing everything the democrats do) in order to gain votes. party before country! Americans can see clearly which party has their best interests at heart.
If Democrats are ruling against the American people on almost every issue (except Iraq) shouldn't the Republicans be fighting or "obstructing" as you call it. You say "party before country",but polls seem to show the Republicans are more popular with the country then the Democrats on most issues. Here is Rasmussen's polls on the issues
okay tallanvor What's the republican plan for America if they retake the majority this fall? Surely they have some good ideas for moving the country forward?
Well first would be repeal and replace of the health care plan. I like Paul Ryan's plan: Next would be the economy, and I think they would attack that by trying to clean up the tax code. Fair Tax is one idea but I doubt it would get enough votes from Republicans and none from Democrats (It requires the government giving it a ton of power). Still they would pass small bills individually to ease the tax burden on the private sector to increase employment and they would definitely give back whats left of the stimulus money. Next would be fixing immigration. I believe most Republicans want to build a fence or at least send far more troops to the southern border. Cleaning up the legal immigration process is far less simple. The only plan I am familiar with is privatizing the background checks by giving them to credit card companies (since they do this better then anyone). I have no idea how popular this is with Republicans.
I appreciate the response. But Let's start with the first one. Repealing Health Care reform. Here's a report from last month Poll shows opposition to health care overhaul declining Opposition to the landmark health care overhaul declined over the past month, to 35 percent from 41 percent, according to the latest results of a tracking poll, reported Thursday. Fifty percent of the public held a favorable view of the law, up slightly from 48 percent a month ago, while 14 percent expressed no opinion about the measure, according to the poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation. The approval level was the highest for the legislation since it was enacted in March, after a divisive year-long debate. In April, the poll found 46 percent in favor and 40 percent opposed. ---------------- So as you can see, the more people learn about the legislation and not the lies of people apposing it, the higher it's approval goes. And I have no doubt that as more and more of the legislation is enacted approval will go even higher. Do you really want to run a campaign on repealing something that most Americans approve of?
Paul Ryan's plan is basically a big tax cut to let people buy their own insurance. It does virtually nothing to address health care costs at all, so you continue to have skyrocketing costs over time. Either the subsidy won't be enough, or it will have to grow over time. Basically, it's a massive entitlement program where the government just gives tax money to the private sector - you're basically just advocating the government give $2700-$5000 to everyone to buy health care. And it's in no way paid for by anything. In other words, it will blow a massive hole through the national deficit. This is pretty interesting on two fronts. One, a fair tax - whatever it's merits - doesn't address the economy at all. The idea is to simplify the tax code for the long-term, but the money coming in is the same. There will be winners and there will be losers, but at the end of the day, the total tax burden is the same. But even more fascinating about this is your support of this along with the Paul Ryan health care plan. The underlying concept of the fair tax is to get rid of income taxes and all the loopholes and rebates and deductions and credits that come with that. It's to eliminate behavior incentives like mortgage deductions, education deductions, etc. The entire basis of the Paul Ryan health care plan is to give you an income tax credit to be spent on health care. Such as? Interesting also that you support these tax credits while also wanting to create a tax structure that doesn't allow for these kinds of tax credits. So your primary method for addressing economic problems would not even exist in your preferred long term tax structure for the country. That's not possible. All the money has already been allocated, even if it hasn't been spent.
So you want to repeal... - Insurance companies will be barred from dropping people from coverage when they get sick. - Insurers will be barred from excluding children for coverage because of pre-existing conditions. - Young adults will be able to stay on their parents' health plans until the age of 26. Many health plans currently drop dependents from coverage when they turn 19 or finish college. - Uninsured adults with a pre-existing conditions will be able to obtain health coverage - A temporary reinsurance program is created to help companies maintain health coverage for early retirees between the ages of 55 and 64. - A tax credit becomes available for some small businesses to help provide coverage for workers. And that’s just the first year okay! Good luck with that!
it is so refreshing to see fear mongering work. the number of people who believe our president has also doubled. this country is ****ed.
By restructuring the tax code (which this plan does and he says in his summary I posted), it will do two things: 1) eases the tax burden on insurance companies who thus pass the savings on to you the costumer. 2) It allows for more competition across state lines. More competition usually means lower prices for the costumer as well. You think not having income tax and only having a sales tax "doesn't address the economy"? Really? I was under the impression a large amount of it hadn't been spent. If its been allocated then un-allocate it.
I think what people mostly wanted out of health care reform was lower prices form private insurance companies and most people don't think Obamacare does this. The things you stated above may be popular among citizens, but it comes at too costly a price: 1) JOBS. Many companies have declared they are gonna go out of business due to this bill (White Castle). 2) Right to privately fund your own health care (not have insurance).
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As I said; I'd love to see a candidate convince a pregnant woman she can't get health insurance because she has a preexisting pregnancy or that an insurance company can drop a customer because their sickness was affecting costs.
Except the driving cost of health care isn't that insurance companies are gouging people. It's that the actual cost of health care is going up at an unsustainable rate. The cost of surgeries, medicine, hospital stays, etc. The Paul Ryan plan sets a tax credit that goes up with the CPI. But health care costs are going up at 2-3 times the CPI. That means, over time, the subsidy just gets smaller in relation to the actual cost of health care. So this does nothing to stop the path of unaffordable health care that we were already on. Yes. If the American people pay $2 trillion in taxes, it doesn't really matter if it comes out of their income or at the counter of retailers. Sure, people will be incentivized to save more (which is the opposite of what we want right now), and there will be winners and losers, but it doesn't actually change the end result of how much is being paid. Yes, it hasn't necessarily been spent. But most of it has been budgeted somewhere or another. If you un-allocate it, you're basically blowing up state budgets or taking contracts away from companies or withdrawing grants that companies have placed bids for, etc. But separate from all of this, even if this is your ideal solution, health care will not get repealed, nor will the stimulus be revoked. For 2011-2012, you'd need to override an Obama veto, which eliminates the stimulus argument entirely since it will be completely done by 2012. For health care in 2013, you'd need 60 votes in the Senate for it, which isn't going to happen and by 2013, many parts of the plan will already be in implementation, so you'd have to re-introduce unpopular things like pre-existing condition restrictions.
An insurance company is a private institution and they have every right to charge whatever they want. I see this as the same as saying "I'd love to see a candidate convince a homeless guy he can't have a Big Montana at Arby's". If People should read their contracts (don't sign if the company can do this) or do some homework and see if any companies have a reputation for screwing over their costumers in such a fashion.
