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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Jul 16, 2010.

  1. tallanvor

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    African Americans and woman being seen as equals is/was a social issue not an economic one.
     
  2. tallanvor

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    The government can collect taxes in a free market, as long as they do it evenly amongst the whole market. An example of an even tax would be a straight sales tax on all products in a given market.
     
  3. A_3PO

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    Hence, like you said, conservatives disagree on this.
     
  4. rimrocker

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    If there is a line, it's not close to being that clear.
     
  5. tallanvor

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    Maybe for some issues the line is not clear. Civil rights is not one of those issues. Civil rights is and has always been defined as a social issue.
     
  6. rimrocker

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    That's absurd on it's face. The two are intertwined. Even a third grader could tell you that white people used black people to make money and even Lee Atwater could tell you (if he was still alive) that some white people still need to think they are better off economically than black people.

    Here's MLK, Jr.:
    Here's another piece by King, and probably the most powerfully prescient speeches in our history... just substitute "communism" for the current fear-mongering on the right...

     
  7. rimrocker

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    Republican leadership...

     
  8. Steve_Francis_rules

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    That's typical Republican behavior. They're paying lip service to lowering the deficit when they're not in control, they offer no specifics on how that would be accomplished, and they'll just spend like crazy once they're voted into power.

    Didn't Boehner recently go on TV talking about lowering the deficit and outright refuse to say how he would do it when he was called on it? I recall his response being something like "we'll worry about that later, right now we just need to make sure people realize what a big problem it is." In other words "we don't have any solutions, but vote for us anyway!"
     
  9. tallanvor

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    You liberals keep saying the GOP offer no solutions and every time I am forced to provide links of Angle suggesting getting rid of Social Security, or Rand Paul wanting to do away with the Department of Education, or how about the Fair Tax which many Republicans support which would greatly diminish the IRS. Get your fingers out of your ears.
     
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    Specifics that are realistic and helpful is what we are looking for.
     
  11. tallanvor

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    Republicans putting out solutions you don't like equals Republicans not putting out solutions?
     
  12. mc mark

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    Speaking of tea partiers

    Seems the closer we come to the mid terms, and people start paying attention, most of the tea party candidates that enjoyed substantial leads are seeing their races tighten up and become competitive.

    Witnesseth

    Conway Closes in on Paul in Latest Kentucky Poll

    Jack Conway, Kentucky's Democratic Attorney General, has pulled within two points of Republican Rand Paul in the Kentucky Senate race, according to the latest poll from SurveyUSA.

    and in Cali

    Barbara Boxer Rebound Confirmed By Another California Poll

    It may just be the bouncing ball of randomness at work but new polls in California, Nevada, Ohio and Kentucky released over the weekend gave Democrats something to smile about, or perhaps just a little less to wince at. Specifically, a new California poll confirms a slight rebound by Senator Barbara Boxer, while a new Nevada survey conducted by a Republican firm is more positive than other recent surveys, giving Senator Harry Reid his biggest edge since August.
     
  13. tallanvor

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    How about Rubio and Miller dominating? Any mention of that?
     
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    Miller "dominating"?

    hardly

    Murkowski has a few more weeks to convince the sane people of AK that she is the right person for the job.

    Rubio? okay, I'll give you one
     
  15. tallanvor

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    Miller is up by 15% That is dominating to me.

    A opposed to you telling me Rand Paul is in trouble when he is up by 6 points
     
  16. mc mark

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    And Rasmussen had Paul up by 15 just last week!

    As I said, as people start paying attention to the election, we will see races tightening all over. It’s not going to be the walk republicans were crowing about a few months ago.

    we'll see sparky!
     
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    Those are solutions being offered by a few Republicans, but they are far from mainstream Republican ideas. Even if the Republicans had a majority in the House and 60-ish in the Senate, they would not be passing anything that eliminated Social Security.
     
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    Disagree

    That's the scary part. Mainstream incumbent republicans now must make the choice to agree or not with the tea party. It is clear they have made their decision and have now melded them and their idea of policy into the party.

    Normal, responsible people see this and are horrified. Get rid of the DoE and Social Security? These ideas are the new republican party ideas. They have no other
     
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    right on que

    GOP Rep. Ted Poe: ‘The Pledge Really Didn’t Go Far Enough’

    Today, Rep. Ted Poe (R-TX), a staunch fiscal conservative, became perhaps the first GOP House member to publicly criticize his caucus’ Pledge. Asked why the Pledge doesn’t address Social Security and Medicare in an interview with Fox26 in Houston, Poe explained that in his mind, “the Pledge really didn’t go far enough“:

     
  20. tallanvor

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    What's your complaint with getting rid of the DoE and making education completely a state's issue?
     

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