1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Mid-Season Random Trade Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by thumbs, Dec 22, 2007.

  1. blastaway

    blastaway Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2007
    Messages:
    428
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hey, they got Tmac in that trade to put with K. Martin. That's not raping them for sure, unless you currently thing Tmac is trash; which I don't.

    Ricky can be a cancer for us to hopefully kill off some of these already dead cells that we have. We have to stop trying only to get model citizens like Shane, and get people that can put the ball in the hoop if we want to win now...and think "IT'S TIME!"

    We can start Steve if you don't want to start AB, or House if it suits you better. I say give the rookie his shot, we can always change later. Sam did great for us his rookie year. I don't think we win the championship without him that year, even though he didn't start, he was like a starter.

    Miami is trying to do anything to get rid of J. Williams this year. They have a young center from Memphis that they are hoping on that just got back from injury. They would still have Smush and Cook, but they would be in a better position to get a point guard later.

    But I do agree that they get the worst deal. :rolleyes: Who cares, I'm a Rockets fan! :D I still think they do it right now to shake up their team and give them another chance to revive themselves. :cool:

     
  2. TManiAC

    TManiAC Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    540
    Likes Received:
    3

    HOUSTON ROCKETS


    PG: Rafer Alston
    SG: Tracy McGrady
    SF: Shane Battier
    PF: Louis Scola
    CN: Yao Ming
    6: Steve Francis
    7: Bonzi Wells
    8: Ricky Davis
    9: Chuck Hayes
    10: Aaron Brooks
    11: Dikembe Mutombo
    12: Steve Novak
    13: Alonzo Mourning

    Outgoing: Mike James, Kirk Snyder, Luther Head, Carl Landry
    Incoming: Ricky Davis, Alonzo Mourning
    Reason: (1) Salary dump; (2) Insurance for McGrady's injuries; (3) Potent scoring off the bench to help kickstart a slowing offense; and (4) Brooks to get more minutes with James and Head out of the rotation.

    MIAMI HEAT


    PG: Jason Williams
    SG: Dwyane Wade
    SF: Dorrell Wright
    PF: Udonis Haslem
    CN: Shaquille O'Neal
    6: Mike James
    7: Mark Blount
    8: Damon Jones
    9: Luke Jackson
    10: Carl Landry
    11: Kirk Snyder
    12: Daequan Cook
    13: Alexander Johnson

    Outgoing: Ricky Davis, Smush Parker, Alonzo Mourning
    Incoming: Mike James, Damon Jones, Kirk Snyder, Carl Landry
    Reason: (1) Ricky Davis lack-luster outside shooting makes him a bad fit in Riley's system; (2) Parker is not getting along with his coach; (3) Zo's tendon tear should side-line him for the rest of the season, if not for the rest of his career; and (4) Riley's system needs shooters like Mike James and Damon Jones.

    CLEVELAND

    PG: Daniel Gibson
    SG: Larry Hughes
    SF: LeBron James
    PF: Drew Gooden
    CN: Zydrunas Ilgauskas
    6: Sasha Pavlovic
    7: Anderson Varejao
    8: Smush Parker
    9: Luther Head
    10: Donyell Marshall
    11: Eric Snow
    12: Ira Newble
    13: Shannon Brown

    Outgoing: Damon Jones
    Incoming: Smush Parker, Luther Head
    Reason: (1) Damon Jones is not happy with his role; (2) Luther Head gives the Cavs the outside shooting they sorely need while Parker is a big, defensive PG to patch up the Cavs shoddy back-court defense.
     
  3. Furious Jam

    Furious Jam Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2002
    Messages:
    2,905
    Likes Received:
    1,606
    Can I play too?

    To Chicago:
    Tracy McGrady
    Aaron Brooks

    To Houston:
    Ben Gordon
    Kirk Hinrich
    Tyrus Thomas
    Viktor Khryapa

    I don't know what a Khryapa is - I just threw it in to make the numbers work on ESPN's trade machine.

    PG: Hinrich / Alston / James
    SG: Gordon / Head / Francis
    SF: Battier / Wells / Snyder / Novak
    PF: Thomas / Scola / Hayes / Landry
    C: Yao / Mutumbo

    That's 16 people, so you'd probably end up releasing Steve.

    My theory, you're buying low on Hinrich and Gordon, and Thomas could be the perfect compliment to Yao (picture Stromile Swift with a motor). Hinrich is an instant (though not large) upgrade at PG and Gordon can replace most of T-Mac's scoring (if nothing else). Chicago wouldn't do this trade last year, but this year, they need to shake things up as much as we do.
     
  4. goyao11

    goyao11 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Messages:
    621
    Likes Received:
    18
    Ive got an idea. It would be a poposterous and blockbuster trade if it actually goes through :p

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...~29~29~29~10~4~10~4~4~29~29~29~4~29&te=&cash=

    Why does houston do it?
    - We need balance in our offense badly. We trade away tmac and battier and lots of expiring contracts for deng (also expiring) and gordon (exp) and miller. THese three can more than handle the scoring vacuum left by Tmac. THey will help space the floor and allow for yao to dominate inside. We take up the contract of wallace because that makes the trade work and he can help yao rebound/defend/sub when he needs a rest.

    Why does memphis do it?
    - They suck. They want movable contracts so they can rebuild. They want youth. They have no need for the large contract of gasol and miller. We could throw in picks if they want them. Wtv

    Whey does chicago do it?
    - This would be the biggest Question mark considering Chicago's attitude about trading Deng. HOwever, they are just sucking terribly and I think that they would bite on the chance to jump from celler dweller to Eastern powerhouse. With a lineup of say, Duhon, Tmac, Batt, Smith, and Gasol, they can easily be a top 4 team in the east. Thier depth... well thats their problem isn't it :p
    Oh, and they also get rid of Wallace and his terrible contract.
     
  5. Tornadoofsoul6

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2007
    Messages:
    1,316
    Likes Received:
    12
    ^ Chicago gets way toooo much..

    And look at all the players Memphis has to cut :rolleyes:
     
  6. goyao11

    goyao11 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Messages:
    621
    Likes Received:
    18
    But the thing is, it only SEEMS that Chicago is getting the bigger piece of the pie; although they get some big names, we get an immense boost in scoring balance. We could run:

    1: Gordon/Rafer/Brooks
    2: Miller/Bonzi/Gordon
    3: Deng/Bonzi/Miller
    4: Scola/Wallace/Hayes
    5: Yao/Wallace/Deke

    How sexy is that lineup? Who the hell are you going to use to double Yao? If Gordon can't run an offense, we could easily bring in Rafer and use Gordon as a spark off the bench. We'd be raining threes and midrange jumpers all over the opposition while Yao destroys them inside. Also, Gordon, Miller, Deng, and Bonzi are all athletic slashers who can get inside and draw fouls. Dont forget we'd also have Wallace and his defense if Yao needs a breather. With this versatile lineup, we could go big, we could go small, heck, we could go all the way... :p

    And yes in this scenario, Memphis would have to cut lots and lots of people, but im sure they could package some people and get another trade (like a 3 for 1 maybe?) with another team to reduce the player glut they'll have. Its better to have lots of pieces than no pieces at all, eh? :D
     
  7. ClutchCityReturns

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2005
    Messages:
    13,420
    Likes Received:
    2,650
    About as realistic as it gets...

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...=77~2011~255~2445&teams=10~10~20~20&te=&cash=

    Philadelphia has a huge dip in salary next year, coming in at just 39 million with 10 players under contract. That means they after they sign next year's rookies (and considering a rise in the league cap), they'll have roughly 20 million for the final 3 roster spots. The move above gives the Sixers 25 million in cap space, allowing them to potentially land 2 star players, or a superstar in free agency. It puts the Sixers in great position to turn things around quickly while grooming Iguodala and getting a good couple of years out of Andre Miller. Korver is a good player, but the potential of cutting an extra $5 million from the cap by moving him has to be pretty attractive, as they could be in bidding wars with Charlotte and Atlanta, two teams with low salary totals next year (35 and 39 mil respectively).

    I shouldn't have to explain why this is good for the Rockets, but I will anyway. Korver can flat out shoot the 3 at a ridiculous rate. Despite being down this year (yet still at 35%), his career 3pt % of .409 tells you all you need to know. He's got a quick release, he's young, he's 6-6, and he can hit shots on the move (picks, hand-offs). A perfect fit for finishing plays in a Princeton-esque offense. Not a good defender, but we wouldn't be trading away defense to get him anyway. Calvin Booth is expiring and is simply a big body for front court depth. All the Rockets lose are two inconsistent borderline rotation guys who are expiring anyway.
     
  8. jump shooter

    jump shooter Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2000
    Messages:
    5,429
    Likes Received:
    145
    What would it take for the rockets to some how aquire Sam Cassell from the Clippers? Even at his age he's still dangerous with all his playoff experience and his attitude or swagger could be contagous for the rockets.
     
  9. ClutchCityReturns

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2005
    Messages:
    13,420
    Likes Received:
    2,650
    [​IMG]

    Probably very expensive to make a trail all the way to Houston though.
     
  10. rockets1239

    rockets1239 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2007
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Tmac, battier, head, 1st round pick to kings

    for

    Artest, Martin, john salmons

    lineup would be:
    brooks
    martin
    bonzi
    artest
    yao

    bench: rafer, mike james, salmons, scola,steve

    sign hayes when he can shoot the right way
    let deke become a doctor at his new hospital
    let novak move into the weight room


    Result: quick, high% shots, dominant big man, great defender, 3s
     
  11. Showtizzle2642

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2007
    Messages:
    465
    Likes Received:
    2
    if we could somehow pull off this trade i'd be the happiest person in the world

    tmac and alston for redd and mo williams

    pg mo williams
    sg michael redd
    sf shane battier
    pf luis scola
    c yao ming

    bench
    head
    wells
    james
    steve
    chuck
    brooks
    etc.

    who agrees and do you think that it could be possible?
     
  12. Alvin Choo

    Alvin Choo Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2007
    Messages:
    3,466
    Likes Received:
    152
    to post 151.

    No thanks, i rather keep shooting crazy Tmac then to have 2 shooting crazy players in redd and willams.

    Jermain o'neil anyone?

    His playing bad this season, 16 points, 7.5 boards and 2 blocks. The lowest across the board for 8 years. He might be on the trading board.

    Battier, rafer, james and hayes for him.
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...~976~2834~1051&teams=10~11~11~11~11&te=&cash=

    they only have 1 backup PG, while tinsley is a player that is injury prone.
     
  13. BackNthDay

    BackNthDay Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2006
    Messages:
    3,570
    Likes Received:
    469
    Tmac, Rafer and Mike James and 1st round pick for

    Jason Kidd and Richard Jefferson

    Jason/Brooks
    Richard/Luther
    Battier/Snyder
    Scola/Hayes/Landry
    Yao/Scola/Deke
     
  14. BackNthDay

    BackNthDay Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2006
    Messages:
    3,570
    Likes Received:
    469
    The Realgm.com trade checker works for the Jason Kidd and Richard Jefferson for Rafer, Mike James, and Tmac. Basically a break even trade statiscally and gets Tmac with his cousin Vince. Plus this gives New Jersey some high scoring for the move to Brooklyn. We also address their point guard needs with a combination of Rafer and Mike James
     
  15. theodd

    theodd Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2006
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    0
    Crazy idea!!
     
  16. Felixthecat

    Felixthecat Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2006
    Messages:
    2,804
    Likes Received:
    189
    I would love this to happen. I would buy season tickets...I promise I would. I dont know how I would afford it...but I would do it.
     
  17. BackNthDay

    BackNthDay Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2006
    Messages:
    3,570
    Likes Received:
    469
    The trade is basically Mike James, Rafer and 1st Rounder for Richard Jefferson. I would include Battier for Mike James just to get Richard Jeffersion
     
  18. hooroo

    hooroo Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2003
    Messages:
    19,293
    Likes Received:
    1,911
  19. dizign

    dizign Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    30
    Likes Received:
    0
    it's time... to blow this muth@ up

    head and novak for pietrus or barnes

    mike james and carl landry for sam cassell

    pg cassell, brooks
    sg t-mac, bonzi
    sf shane, pietrus/barnes
    pf scola, hayes
    c yao, deke

    it's fu--ing time for something... i'm so frustrated :mad:
     
  20. ClutchCityReturns

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2005
    Messages:
    13,420
    Likes Received:
    2,650
    You know Jefferson is averaging 25ppg, right? Trading him for anyone not named Kobe is not likely to increase scoring.
     

Share This Page