and the more i think about it, the more it makes sense. tracy fits in better with rick's system than yao does. and trading yao would give us better value than tracy on top of that. Yao for Kobe!!! It's time!
Yahoooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!! Someone who agrees with me. Ya, T-mac and Kobe. The 2 best scorers in the league. That s going to be crazy. We will need a center but who cares. Lets dream about T-mac and Kobe.
damn, you didn't even read my previous 4 posts on page 3... anyway, i would like to know what everybody thinks about this! Yao for Kobe. I think it's possible. We all know Phil has publicly stated that he thinks he knows how to use Yao better than any other coach, obviously he's had dreams of coaching him, and he gets a little excited thinking about it. So, i'd think it's a possibility if we made the offer... Jermaine Oneil to fill the center spot. I think it's possible as well. If rumors are true that he wants out of indiana, he would make houston his first choice. He stated he wants to play for houston over any other team. i think the only question is, what do we give up for him. I don't know what indiana needs, but i'd propose: Battier, James, Alston, 1st round pick. Maybe you guys could come up with a better or more realistic trade, but i'm just after the fact of if all this is possible. Tracy, Kobe, and Jermaine = wowza!!! They would all understand each other's game very well, their chemistry would be very strong from the start, They are all very good friends already who would probably play together smooth as butter imo. This really excites me when i think about it guys. What do you guys think, is it possible??? Is there a better trade suggestion than this to give us a better overall team? Somebody may need to catch a little bit of this notion who is in contact with Adelman, and discuss. I don't think Adelman has even considered or put thought into trading Yao, but when you actually cross the line and put some thought into what the outcome would seem like, it kind of opens some big ass doors.
If Les "Owner of the I Love Yao organization" Alexander wants to trade Yao for Kobe, Lakers would have to trade either Mihm, or Bynum or bring in a 3rd team to give a quality center (I.E. Tyson Chandler). Kwame is just bad luck
And don't forget Kobes no trade clause, Kobe says he was happy he wasnt traded. Also, Houston was not included in Kobe's 4 teams he would lift his no-trade clause for.
if they did make that trade, they would probably give us kwame or mihm for cheap. IE Yao for Kobe, and then kwame for James. Makes sense for both teams since that gives the lakers a proven sg who can score the ball and make jumpers, and it gives the rockets a back-up center which they may need. again, if we got jermaine oneil in a trade with battier, james, alston, novak etc whatever, that would give us kobe bryant plus a solid center who fits in with adelman's style of play, better than yao. Brooks Kobe Tracy Hayes Oneil best starting lineup in the nba. looking at you, celtics!
i think kobe would have his most encouraging moment in nba history if he thought he could play with tmac. i think the two of them on the timberwolves would make a serious contending team. don't think kobe's ever thought being traded for yao, maybe he thought of being traded to play with yao.
Your trade advocates trading T-Mac. Your trade will not work. Here is why it won't work. (one or more of the following may apply to your particular trade, and it may have other flaws not listed below.) ( ) Team receiving T-MAC is rebuilding and want expiring contracts and/or draft picks (x) No team will build around injury prone T-MAC as the best player on their team ( ) The players you are trading for have a higher value that T-MAC ( ) You overvalue T-Mac's trade value ( ) You undervalue the trade value of the young player on a rookie contract with high potential ( ) You think that mike James has positive trade value ( ) You overvalue Shane Battier's trade value Specifically your trade fails to account for ( ) No Team will trade their best player for T-Mac ( ) Team has a better player than T-MAc at that position already ( ) Trade is not possible because of CBA restrictions ( ) Team is rebuilding therefore would have no need for T-MAC (x) The Team will actually be worse off after this trade ( ) Gilbert Arenas has a higher trade value than T-MAc, therefore washington will not even trade them straightup ( ) If New Jersey is trading Jason Kidd, that means they are rebuilding, therefore they would want expiring contracts/young players/draft picks ( ) Kobe/Lebron/Carmelo/ Any other player that is the best player on their team has a higher trade value that Tmac Furthermore, this is what I think about you: (x) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work. ( ) This is a stupid trade, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it. ( ) I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!
Your trade advocates trading T-Mac. Your trade will not work. Here is why it won't work. (one or more of the following may apply to your particular trade, and it may have other flaws not listed below.) (x) Team receiving T-MAC is rebuilding and want expiring contracts and/or draft picks (x) No team will build around injury prone T-MAC as the best player on their team ( ) The players you are trading for have a higher value that T-MAC ( ) You overvalue T-Mac's trade value ( ) You undervalue the trade value of the young player on a rookie contract with high potential ( ) You think that mike James has positive trade value ( ) You overvalue Shane Battier's trade value Specifically your trade fails to account for (x) No Team will trade their best player for T-Mac ( ) Team has a better player than T-MAc at that position already ( ) Trade is not possible because of CBA restrictions (x) Team is rebuilding therefore would have no need for T-MAC ( ) The Team will actually be worse off after this trade ( ) Gilbert Arenas has a higher trade value than T-MAc, therefore washington will not even trade them straightup (x) If New Jersey is trading Jason Kidd, that means they are rebuilding, therefore they would want expiring contracts/young players/draft picks ( ) Kobe/Lebron/Carmelo/ Any other player that is the best player on their team has a higher trade value that Tmac Furthermore, this is what I think about you: (x) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work. ( ) This is a stupid trade, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it. ( ) I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!
The lakers don't do that trade. They have someone called andrew bynum that is fast becoming their franchise player.
Well, just say so without being such a drama queen. We're all just having a little fun throwing out "what ifs" to think about.
well, AI and mellow are 2 of the most overrated players in the game. They're both above average, but they strive in showing-off more than doing what it takes to win. Tracy and Kobe are the best players in the game. they can be show-offs too, but they are more focused on wining than anything else. Tracy seems like he never had a coach who brought the best out of him. Kobe is just a machine.
Only problem if LA and Hou agree to pull the trigger on a Yao for Kobe trade, and Kobe lifts his no-trade clause. They have Bynum at the C. Who the organization wants to be their next all-star. Even if you slide the Laker's lineup to Yao/Bynum/Odom/Walton/Fisher, Yao and Bynum would crowd the paint.
Lets be honest here, all Gerald Green can do is dunk on people and get is head above the ring?. What good does that do us?
There was a really early post that said this... Kirk Snyder Shane Battier Luther Head traded for Damien Wilkins Chris Wilcox Delonte West personally i think this is a really reasonable and good trade...anyone want to further comment on this? Anyone know any comments these guys have made about their position in seattle or their connection with Houston?
Huh... I really do like some of the ideas in this thread... but there are also a ton where I feel like people are waaaaay overvaluing our scrubs. Why does anyone think we can trade McGrady and dead weight contracts in exchange for 4 quality starters? T-Mac is no Shaq circa the Miami-LA trade, and Shaq got Odom and an UNPROVEN Butler in return. If you think T-Mac will fetch more than that, I think you need a reality check. I actually like the T-Mac for Jermaine exchange. It's realistic, anyway: we'd be exchanging two often injured quote unquote "superstars" who could never lead their teams anywhere on their own. And it would make our front line horrendously brutal for ANY team to contend with. I'm on the fence on the Battier-Davis exchange. I can see the logic that we'd need a perimeter-scoring type with McGrady gone, but Bonzi might be able to fill that role. Plus, with Davis instead of Battier, who takes all the minutes at the 3? I'm assuming Bonzi would start there, but Davis can't play 3. We'd be relying on Snyder rather heavily. I like Snyder and all, but I just don't know... and we'd be seeing a heck of a lot of small guard pairings in the backcourt. I like this too... I'd only modify it a bit, because I'm not sure Chicago would jump on trading three rotation players for one, even if they're the ones getting the superstar. Seriously... what bigs do they have left after this trade? Basically Noah, Joe Smith, Hayes and Nocioni (who's really more of a 3). That's... pitiful. Beyond pitiful. Would you really do that if you were them? So basically, I'd just switch out Chuck Hayes for Luis Scola, and leave the trade otherwise intact. This way Chicago gets a well-rounded big in return as well as McGrady... much more likely they'd accept. Plus, how much would Scola really play with us if we had a 3-man rotation of Yao, Wallace, and Thomas? Huh... I kinda like it. Given the rumblings over the summer of a Battier/Wilcox trade, and the fact that Head seems to have some market value, and that I love Delonte West... yeah, I like it. We'd finally have a point who can play both play D and make an open shot. And I may not love Wilcox, but he's an upgrade over Hayes. Don't see Jersey ever doing that. So T-Mac and our trash gets us 4 rotation players? I don't see them gutting their team to get a frail, never-been-anywhere superstar. And the other teams never would. You think those trades are lopsided in the OTHER teams' favor?
