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Microfracture Sugery Announcement-A Ploy to Not Get Traded?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Blake, Feb 18, 2009.

  1. Angkor Wat

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    LOL. Let me get this straight, so just because that is what you would do, T-Mac would do the exact same? Sorry, not everyone thinks alike. You really think you being a fan and T-Mac being an NBA player, have the same thought process? Maybe you aren't able take a trade rumor on the front page well, but I'm sure T-Mac or any athlete could deal with whats said in the media better than the average fan. Most, if not all athletes don't let the media affect them to the point where they have to come up with an elaborate scheme to block a trade. Hell, Steven A Smith went on ESPN TV last year and said the Rockets were shopping T-Mac. Why didn't try anything then?


    Its funny because you speak all that talk about what T-Mac is doing, yet you just said you'll do the same thing that you're complaining about, which is, find a way to block that trade. You rag on T-Mac for apparently, doing the same thing you would do in that situation. HILARIOUS.
     
  2. HowsMyDriving

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  3. Shaud

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    Last year T-mac was linked to trade rumors.

    But I never agree with Conspiracy theories when they are presented so I guess my opinion doesn't matter on the subject.
     
  4. Blake

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    It was a hypothetical situation. Notice the "might" in the post you quoted.

    So, Angkor Wat, why did Tracy go ahead and annouce the surgery before he saw addtional doctors. Why did he tell Steven A of all people? Why did he completely change his tune from the week before? Why didn't he involve the organization?

    And having one reporter casually say you are on the trading block is a totally different situation than multiple newspaper and national reports saying that actual players were being discussed. It was on the front page of ESPN. HUGE difference. Also, last year, the team was not frustrated with TMac as they are this year. There was no internal friction (or at least not like this year). Also, at this point last season, Yao was out and TMac was carrying the team...I seriously doubt he was ever worried about being traded. By annoucing that he is having the surgery (not a huge ELABORATE scheme), he kills any trade value and doesn't have to go play for a team he that he feels has no chance to contend (like a Nets team).

    But keep defending your boy. I couldn't care less.
     
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    Well, New Jersey is probably one of the most horrible cities in the world, and Vince surrely told Tracy how awfull it was, plus everyone knows she hates cold places (toronto). So I wouldn't be shocked if she sabotaged any possible trade...
     
  6. topfive

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    a) New Jersey is not a city.

    b) Most of the Nets players either live in Manhattan or live on the Jersey waterfront 10 minutes from Manhattan. So basically, if you play for the Nets, you get to live in New York City, one of the greatest cities in the entire world.
     
  7. Blake

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    and I'd like to point out, AGAIN, that I said the timing of the announcement without the complete medical due diligence is what I am talking about...not whether or not Morey said today that he was never being shopped or whether or not he actually needs the procedure
     
  8. Laozi

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    Man, I wish I would have said something like that
     
  9. Blake

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    except I didn't say that I would do it. I used a hypothetical situation and said "might"

    but whatever. I've said my piece and I still believe it and the thread can die
     
  10. Dave_78

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    Exactly. Nothing is more ridiculous than the undying devotion I'm seeing to one player. Turns out the conspiracy theory is a lot closer to reality than the excuses we have seen defending this guy.
     
  11. glad_ken

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    McGrady pulled one on the Rockets....

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6268327.html

    McGrady's surgery declaration perturbs Rockets

    Tracy McGrady left little doubt. The Rockets, however, aren’t sure.

    Forced to hear of McGrady’s decision to have season-ending and career-threatening surgery on ESPN and then to read about it on his Web site, Rockets general manager Daryl Morey said Wednesday on his radio show that no decision has been made regarding an operation to repair McGrady’s troublesome left knee. And coach Rick Adelman strenuously decried having to learn about his struggling starting shooting guard’s status via the media, rather than from McGrady.

    "I think he’s meeting with another doctor, one of the top guys in Chicago," Morey said. "And the plan is to meet with Tracy — he met with a doctor in New York (Tuesday) — and look at all the options. I think the one that is out there right now (microfracture surgery) — which is hard to comment on because I don’t have anything direct there — is the most extreme of the options. But we’re going to look at what all the doctors say, sit down with T-Mac and his agent (Arn Tellem) and the team doctor (Tom Clanton), and decide what’s best."

    As far as McGrady is concerned, the decision has already been made.

    When an MRI last week showed no change in his condition, McGrady said he was not even considering surgery. But after Tuesday’s tests with a more advanced T-2 MRI, one of just two in the nation, he said he would need microfracture surgery.

    "My knee hasn’t been right all year, and we can’t seem to get the pain to go away," McGrady wrote on t-mac.com. "We’ve tried just playing through it, taking back-to-backs off, and extended periods of rest, but none of it has really been effective in limiting the discomfort and allowing me to just go out there and play.

    "Microfracture surgery is a serious procedure, but I’m confident that I will be able to return next season with the same strength and explosiveness you are all used to seeing from me," McGrady wrote. "It has been extremely frustrating dealing with the knee injury this season. It’s been tough on me both physically and mentally and while we’ve come to this conclusion after much deliberation, we truly feel this is best for both me and the Rockets in the long term."

    When McGrady said how "we" feel, he apparently was not including the Rockets.

    Adelman said he didn’t know if the seven-time NBA All-Star would need to take the extreme step that McGrady said he would undergo immediately. Adelman was vehement, however, that McGrady should not have made an announcement without even talking to him.

    "I found out like everybody else did," Adelman said. "I think there should be a protocol there. There should be a procedure where we have a chance to sit down and talk about a situation and not (have it) announced in the press. I don’t know why that happened, why he did that. It certainly is not the way it should be handled.

    "I saw what he said in the paper. With everything that’s gone on this year, it certainly is not the way it should have gone down. I just thing there’s right ways to do things, and this is not the right way to do it. That’s something that should have been talked about with him, the doctors, the team. Certainly, I’m not going to question if that’s the right thing to do if that’s what the doctors say. Certainly, we deserve a little bit better than having it announced in the press and not knowing exactly what went down."

    McGrady has missed 19 of the Rockets’ 54 games this season while trying to rehabilitate his knee after arthroscopic surgery May 6. In his last game — a Feb. 9 loss at Milwaukee — he made just one of nine shots, including a missed breakaway dunk. He is averaging 15.6 points per game this season and has made a career-low 38.8 percent of his shots.

    In his first four seasons with the team, the Rockets went 20-46 in games McGrady missed. This season, they are 13-6 without him.

    In a microfracture procedure, a surgeon creates small fractures in underlying bone to form replacement cartilage known as a "super clot." Rehabilitation can take from between six months to a year, depending on how much cartilage must be replaced.

    If McGrady must miss all of next season, the Rockets could request a disabled player exception to the NBA salary cap that would allow them to spend half of his $23.2 million salary on another player. It is unclear and subject to NBA review whether his condition would be considered to have fallen within the Dec. 1-June 30 window to make the Rockets eligible for that exception.

    In December, McGrady visited Dr. James Andrews for a second opinion on the knee. The Rockets announced he would miss one week; McGrady said he would miss three weeks. In January, he agreed he could play hard but would not be able to play in both games of back-to-backs. Later in January, he took two weeks off from games to work on his conditioning.

    Upon returing after each departure, McGrady claimed he had turned a corner in his recovery.

    "So kick me when I’m down, because I swear to you, I’ll be back up," McGrady said last month. "And when I get back up, I’m going to sit back and I’m going to laugh, man, because I’m going to have the last laugh."

    Last week, however, he said the knee had regressed.

    Players who undergo microfracture surgery have had widely varying degrees of success coming back. McGrady’s procedure would be on a non-weight-bearing part of his knee, dramatically improving his prognosis.

    The procedure effectively ended the careers of Allan Houston, Terrell Brandon, Jonathan Bender and Jamal Mashburn. Others, such as Chris Webber and Anfernee Hardaway, returned from microfracture surgery but were never the same. Others still, from Amare Stoudemire to Jason Kidd to Antonio McDyess, have returned to play well, with Stoudemire seeming as strong as he was before the procedure.

    "Obviously, something needs to get done," Adelman said. "We’ve gone through the whole year. He has not moved very well. He has not played well. If this gets him healthy, that’s great.

    "We’re better off moving forward now. We tried every which way possible. He had an effect on the team. We were always in and out. If this is the best thing for him, we’re going to move on and try to have the best season we can have."
     
  12. devin23

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    Tmac annouce his injury a few days before the trade deadline. Coincidence or not?

    Tmac announcing career season injury only a few days before trade deadline? Then the nNets no longer wants any part with him. Is it a coincidence or did he have ulterior motive not to be traded to announce this only a few days before the trade deadline?


    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/...kRoundup-090218
    Chris Broussard: It looks like it's Portland or bust for Vince Carter, according to a person with knowledge of the trade talks surrounding New Jersey's star forward.

    "It's looking like it's going to be head-to-head between Carter and Richard Jefferson," the person said. "I think Jefferson's going to be the one who goes to Portland."


    While Carter may be the better player, Portland's concerned with Carter's age (he turned 32 last month) and the three years, $51 million left on his contract (though only $4 million of the $18 million in his final season is guaranteed).

    The Nets have their own concerns about Carter's contract and that's why they've been shopping him. They've spoken with San Antonio, Houston and Dallas but nothing has come of those talks.

    Discussions with San Antonio have broken down because the Spurs, while willing to part with Bruce Bowen and Fabricio Oberto, are not willing to include Roger Mason Jr. and George Hill in the deal.

    Houston would have traded Tracy McGrady for Carter, but McGrady's announcement that he'll have season-ending microfracture surgery killed those chances.

    "There will be no Vince deal," another source close to the situation said, referring to the Rockets.

    The Los Angeles Clippers, who since training camp have regretted signing Baron Davis to a five-year, $65 million deal, have tried to get involved, proposing a three-team move that would send Davis to Houston, McGrady to New Jersey and Carter to LA. But no one but the Clippers liked that deal.

    If Carter doesn't go to Portland, will the Nets send him wherever they can?

    "I'd be surprised if they did a straight salary dump, but at the end of the day that might be best for their organization," said one source.

    As for Milwaukee's Jefferson, it's far from a done deal that he'll join the Blazers. The Bucks would love to send Jefferson to Portland in a deal that would bring back Raef LaFrentz's expiring contract, but another executive close to the talks said, "It's not dead but there's nothing happening right now."

    The Bucks' talks with San Antonio about Jefferson have stalled as well.

    Portland's telling teams it has 15 different players it can get for LaFrentz. But many executives around the league are skeptical, saying the Blazers like to talk about deals but are always hesitant to pull the trigger on anything significant.
     
  13. bamtonio

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    honestly? how many time has this scenario/idea come up about a "conspiracy?" there's so many threads about this!
     
  14. tonyrock

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    of course not~He chose the right time ~
     
  15. houstonsnk

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    Haha, me and my dad were just talking about this.
     
  16. Faos

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    They would have known after giving him a physical anyway. It doesn't matter.
     
  17. BrooksBall

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    I'm not saying he did it on purpose but if he did... he becomes a villain in my book.
     
  18. RMGEEGEE

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    Nothing would have happened.
    Les said it himself.. He had no intentions of trading McGrady.. and that was when McGrady was only still going through tests.
     
  19. devin23

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    How about this, what if later after the trade deadline, should tmac not be traded that he says, "Oh you know what? Maybe I don't need to have surgery after all? I'm just going to work hard to get back into shape." You never know with Mcgrady anymore...
     
  20. boby

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    It's so obvious that he wanted to ruin any possible trade involves him.
     

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