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Microfracture Sugery Announcement-A Ploy to Not Get Traded?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Blake, Feb 18, 2009.

  1. Blake

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    My point is that I don't think he knows he has to have the procedure yet. I think he is SAYING he will get it right now to make sure he doesn't get traded to a team he has no interest in playing for
     
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    Are you MacLady's husband?You know her everything even something she doesn't know.
     
  3. t_mac1

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    i never said he wasn't done after this surgery. i stated before his rocket career is probably over. and his NBA career could be too.

    but people like you, well, keep reaching for those conspiracy theories.
     
  4. leebigez

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    Yeah, like Sean Elliot. If u know a player has injury history annd you're a team looking to 2010 fa class, it doesn't matter if the guy is out this yr and next. I wish people will use a little common sennse.
     
  5. t_mac1

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    let me repeat this: HE HAD ZERO TRADE VALUE BEFORE ANNOUNCING THE SURGERY. nobody wants to take on his contract this year AND next year. that's $21 and $22 million combined.

    EVERY team would want to take him on NEXT year when he's an expiring contract.

    get it now?

    how can you sabotage trades when they don't even want you? tracy has the lowest trade value of any player right now, with or without the microfracture surgery rumors.
     
  6. t_mac1

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    exactly. but everybody loves conspiracy theories.

    i guarantee you tracy will be traded next yr, regardless if he plays or not, whether the rockets want to or not. some team will give us a great deal that we cannot say no to, simply b/c tracy's contract will be THE MOST appealing contract.

    but next year is not this year. he still has $40+ million that nobody wants to pay.
     
  7. Vince_Carter

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    0 chance of this being true. Some of y'all just need to give up with these ridiculous conspiracy theories.

    The guy *obviously* isn't healthy. We've seen him play for 5 years now? Has he done this before?
     
  8. Shehzad23

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    Evan if he is traded its not like she is gona play. :D
     
  9. Blake

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    Wow, I didn't realize that you were an NBA GM.

    See, many teams want to be under the cap for the great free agent class of 2010. Teams have players who have overinflated contracts (see Carter, Vince, etc) for multiple years that they want to be rid of so that they can partake in the 2010 free agency year. This is why teams were discussing getting TMac.

    Yes, I understand that his value is low (because he's a pansy with heart issues and a history of injuries) but HE STILL HAD VALUE, hence teams discussing potential trades.

    I realize will be worth more next year, when his contract is expiring, but teams were still talking to us about trades, according to the national media. So he must have been worth something...

    Get it now?
     
  10. Angkor Wat

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    If teams wanted Tmac for his expiring contract, they'd make a trade in the summer or next season, when his contract is actually expiring. What would be the benefit for those teams to get TMac now? Why not wait till next season and pay him for one year instead of paying him for his services for two years? Makes no sense. Teams usually go for expiring contracts in its final year. Look at Starbury. His contract is expiring and the Knicks have yet to be able to trade him. $20 million is a lot of players to make up for. Even harder when its 20mil for the next two years.
     
  11. t_mac1

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    dude, they can trade vince ANY time. vince HAS trade value. get it? NJ is NOT desperate to unload for anything. they still have ANOTHER season to go before the 2010 season. unless my math is wrong, lebron james is not a free THIS off-season.

    so why get a potentially oft-injured star that you have to pay $40 mil the next 2 years that may not play any games?

    OR keep vince this year and wait for better deals or maybe get another player that CAN play. i mean, NJ still wants to be competitive before the 2010 offseason to make themselves attractive to free agents right? lebron/wade/bosh don't want to go to bad teams.

    get it?

    seriously. all this requires was some logical thinking. tracy cannot sabotage any trades b/c nobody wants him. tell him to do this next yr, see if he can sabotage any trades.
     
  12. Blake

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    Because it could have allowed a team to get rid of an overpaid player with a longer contract.

    I realize the only reason anyone would want him is to get his expiring deal and that realistically he is worth pennies on the dollar and that his contract is more of an asset next season, but there were discussions. Now, there will not be discussions b/c he has told Screamin A that he needs the surgery that LAST week he said he did not need. I think he said it b/c he was worried about being traded now...

    Wouldn't you if your pic was on the front page of ESPN with news that you were in discussions to be traded?
     
  13. t_mac1

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    he was in trade discussions last yr too bro and over the off-season. tmac admitted this and knew of this, particularly the offseason rumors.
     
  14. Blake

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    I was using Vince as an example. You could have said Baron Davis, Jermaine O'Neal, etc...

    The bottom line is this. Most players don't trust management, realizing the business side of things. All of a sudden, TMac's name is all over the papers and internet about trade discussions. Then, he tells loudmouth he needs microfracture surgery.

    The point isn't what his trade value is or how much better it is next season or what a team can get for Vince Carter (who I don't want anyway)...it's that TMac's name was all over the media then he announces he needs a surgery that doctors have not said is necessary right before the trade deadline...

    Get it?
     
  15. HowsMyDriving

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    you are assuming that the acquisition of tmac's contract would be the extent of another team's 2010 planning.

    IF another team were thinking of shedding salary for 2010, they would need to acquire the assets to do so when those assets come available. For a team that is essentially going nowhere this year, why does it make a difference that you have to pay tracy? you'd have to pay the players you are trading for him anyway, that are leading you nowhere. since tracy is injured, you'll likely improve your draft position by committing $20m this year to an unproductive player, PLUS you get the large 2010 asset you were looking for, PLUS you can put together the rest of your 2010 salary reduction strategy knowing you have a major piece in place.

    it makes sense to me, anyway. a higher lottery pick + 2010 cap space + more time to formulate a strategy is exactly what i would want if i were one of those teams.
     
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    why do you keep saying they have to pay him 21 MM this year, half the season is almost over, unless Grady gets paid 42 MM a year... ooooo got em
     
  17. burnnotice

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    I think he still has trade value and realistically, if he didn't want to be traded to a lottery team, he would be better off not having surgery. No lottery team would really want him to play right now, but one of those teams that are in the 7-10 spot of the lottery, looking to move down to the top 3, might take an injured McGrady to move a high paid star. McGrady rides the bench or rehabs while they tank the season. If he is able to play, it's possible he gets traded to a playoff team that will expect him to play.

    And of course next year he becomes one of the most valuable trade pieces in the NBA with his huge expiring contract. Next year, with Lebron and Wade among others becoming available, every team in the league will be after McGrady's expiring contract to get cap space.
     
  18. t_mac1

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    it does not matter. nobody wants him this year. everybody wants him next yr. surgery or not. just understand that.

    do you know how much $40 million is to an NBA franchise? nobody is like the lakers or knicks that can just spend spend spend. and even the knicks were wary of that.

    i'm sure if htis was baseball, then sure it can happened. but not in the NBA.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Maybe we could package him with Chuck Hayes.

    ;)

    DD
     
  20. t_mac1

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    it makes sense to you, not to the guys who have to write the checks for $40 million.

    vince is an attractive player for some "contending" teams. that's why his name is out there quite often. the nets want some value for him along with expiring contracts in 2010. they could trade him in the offseason if they wanted to. again, the nets are NOT desperate yet. if they are, they can call the rockets later in the offseason for tracy and make that deal when tracy is entering his FINAL YEAR.

    when you're not desperate, why waste those money? the nets are the ones in control, not the rockets.
     

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