Pietrus is a very gifted athlete who doesn't seem to have a brain, I agree. Barnes doesn't seem to be able to shoot although he seems to be a much better decision maker. Azubuike will probably sign for less than either one of them. Azubuike is the best shooter of the 3. And Azubuike has demonstrated better bball iq than Pietrus. This isn't the same system that we had when Van Gundy was here. When Van Gundy was here, it was between Azubuike and Synder as to who got the last roster spot. Snyder had the guaranteed contract. I'd take a chance on Azubuike. You might be able to land him for the vet min.
Barnes should be cheaper, no doubt about it. The season before last was a career year for him, but last season, his numbers fell back to what he posted before '06-'07, with a .423 FG% and only .293% from Downtown. Maybe GS knew what they were doing when they low-balled him. I was a real fan of the guy, and wanted us to aquire him before last season, but I'm not so wild about the idea today.
That is all you need to know. Pietrus could be a very good NBA player but never will be. I tend to shy away from players that feud with their coach. While Nelly can be cranky, by and large he's easy to play for.
Agreed, not only will Pietrius and Childress be offered less than the MLE on the open market, neither one of those teams have shown that they are that willing to match any reasonable offer to resign them. Matt Barns was a key piece coming off the Warrior's bench, I would think they will be willing to match any reasonable offer we can throw at him. While Pietrius have openly said that he wants out of GS. ATL didn't even want to spend more than 8 mil to lock up Josh Smith because they know there are only a few teams with more then the MLE to spend in Free Agency. Since they will only have around 8 million in cap room (4mil+5.2MLE) I would think they are willing to just let Childress go.
Put me in the camp of those who ain't feelin' Pietrus that much. He suffers from some bad shot selection and plays out-of-control at times. And you'll have to really coach him into playing sound, disciplined defense. His defense is/was pretty much like what most of Golden State's and Denver's players' defense was last year: gamble a lot to try to steal passes at the expense of giving up an easy drive to the basket or an uncontested shot from the perimeter.
Well then it would be a relatively small risk since he will be signed around the 3-4 mil a year for 2,3 years, and he would be coming off the bench anyways where every he signs. A lot better option then other players who will be signed for 3,4 times that much. A lot better then if you tr
I think Atlanta is taking the same approach to Childress as the Rockets are with Landry. There are several teams that would throw the full MLE at Childress (who, by the way, I think it totally worth it), but the Hawks would gladly match any full-MLE offer sheet on Childress. That's why he'll end up re-signing with the Hawks for slightly more than the MLE.
I'd rather have Josh Childress than Barnes or Pietrus. He beats or compares well with those two in just about every stat category. He's 6'8". He's young, long, and athletic. Heck, there's probably a "Josh Childress" thread around here... someone should bump it.
Childress is probably the most underrated free agent out there. That being said, as hapless as the Hawks brass is they'd be crazy to not match any MLE offer he receives.
precisely. couple that with his feud w/nelly and its a no go! as the other poster stated...who ever feuds with nelly?? specifically, who ever feuds with nellie over offense?? nelly's run and gun offense allows a jacker to be a jacker and, unless you're a low post scorer, you'll have plenty of opportunities to pad your stats. the strange part is that pietrus did just that - jack up bad shots! why, again was he complaining about his role on offense? maybe I'm wrong and he wants a more structured "real" offense and didn't like what nellie was running. if that were the case, though, he wouldn't jack up the ridiculous shots he has. or maybe he just wouldn't have signed there in the first place. everyone knows nellie's MO. no one expects a jeff van gundy team to score 110 points per game.
Haha, well either way we're out of the running with Landry & his agent holding us hostage. Childress would be such a great addition, though. He's like a poor man's Shawn Marion. Comes off the bench and immediately impacts the game with his defense, hustling and scoring. He's remarkably efficient and has basketball IQ through the roof. Very Battier like but with upside and ability to get his own shot.
Well Josh Smith is held on a much higher regard then Childress, and the Hawks didn't want to offer him a reasonable contract. Add that to the fact that they already have Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Marvin Williams, playing the SF/SG position I would think they are more likely to just let him go. Anyways he'll be a bargain at the MLE, someone I think the rockets are willing to go over the cap for.
Josh Smith plays the four and coming from somebody who watches nearly every Hawks game Marvin Williams should be the expendable one out of that group. Keeping both of the Josh's is essential to Atlanta's success. Although, if i'm right i'd be happy to take "Charmin" Williams off their hands too. Whatever we can do to help, right?
The problem we have is that Landry will take atleast half of the MLE and most of those guys(Pietris, Ricky Davis etc..) will want more than 2.5 mil and prbably will get it. So unless Morey feels these guys are worth going over the cap(Les said it would be ok for right player) we will have to try and make a trade to get a backup wing or stick with what we have.
I would rather take him for the MLE than Landry,although I like them both. I just don't see Les going over the cap for Childress though.
Don't take this the wrong way because I love Landry's game but we will miss out on a good player(Pietris Davis Childress) to resign him. We just better hope and pray that he comes back this season 100% and doesn't hurt that knee again because we saw how much his game fell off after the injury. I'm taking names of the ones that say we better do whatever it takes to keep Landry, because if he hurts that knee again and plays sub par like he did toward the end of the season and playoffs, I don't want to hear crying from any of you.
i dont see why pick up a 3 to back up battier when we just drafted a 3 in greene? Unless greene's basically taking harris' 3rd string bench spot and wont see much action next season, if that's the case i have no problem with pietrus or barnes. Posey would be nice too but he's either staying in boston to get another ring or go to the highest bidder, which pretty much rule the rockets out.
